Krugman: Bring back 91% tax rate

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by colonial dr, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. Bob111

    Bob111

    you can tax whatever..i remember russia tried that..i was there at that time..tax f** 90%..f** tax 100+%..and you will get NOTHING. there is will be barter,black market etc..study f** history,krugman..another pathetic academic f**

    look, taxing fucks..get this trough your head, imbeciles in DC..i don't mind to pay a tax,but give a f** proof that you are capable and accountable for my money..i'm asking too much? stop pissin away my dollars. or create a clear,simple transparent system,where WE,the people will decide where our money should go. that would include your salaries and retirement benefits. you sign up some lousy,useless,retarded law or order? f** off!, fired,no pay,no pension.next!
    we can do it now online, in real f** time. it could be way better and more porductive than watching f** american idol. cause you can be a next americal idol too!
     
    #41     Nov 19, 2012
  2. burn8

    burn8

    Truth is nobody every paid 91% and nobody every will.

    Ask any French business if they could survive actually paying the taxes required by their government. There are always 2 sets of books.

    Problem is now everybody becomes a criminal to survive and governments love that - just like they love keeping illegal aliens around to do the dirty work.

    -burn8
     
    #42     Nov 19, 2012
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    #43     Nov 19, 2012
  4. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    Based on what? Or is that simply your assertion?

    Before we add a dime to anyone's tax burden, large spending cuts are in order. We have entire gov't agencies that serve no real purpose (e.g., Departments of Energy and Education). Spending on defense can also be slashed heavily.

    Also, there's more to taxes than the Federal rate. Compared to the 1950s, taxes on practically everything else have skyrocketed: sales, property, gasoline, lots of other hidden taxes. Social Security taxes used to be 3% for employee and 3% for employer. Now it's over 15% if you're self-employed (12.4% for Social Security 2.9% for Medicare). We need more taxes about as much as we need more obesity. And what trader runs around calling for higher capital gains rates (this is a trading site, BTW)?
     
    #44     Nov 20, 2012
  5. Well, yes, that is my assertion of my opinion, but I do base it on certain facts. The Bush tax cuts gave significant cuts to middle and lower income earners with dependents. The tax cuts came not through rate reductions primarily but through deductions and credits for dependents.
    A self employed individual earning a 100k with 3 children and a mortgage could be paying as little as 5% in Federal taxes, not including SS and Medicare. People earning 50k and less could be paying no Fed income taxes at all. Every wage earner should have some skin in the game. I don't care if you decided to have nine kids; that doesn't let you off the hook.

    I have no beef with SS taxes. They will be returned to us at a later date when we hang up our stirrups. In theory at least. I agree we should address spending and reduce it.
     
    #45     Nov 20, 2012
  6. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    I agree with you here, though I'd extend to every voter should have skin in the game.

    On SS, we may or may not get it back. However, we won't do nearly as well as the early generation of SS recipients, who paid a lot less into the system.
     
    #46     Nov 20, 2012
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    This thread is still another example of "bad reading" by the far right wing nuts, one in particular, who infest ET. In the linked article by Krugman, there is no suggestion by him that we should go back to a 91% top marginal rate.

    What is currently being proposed by the administration is an adjustment of the top marginal rate upward by a few percent to return it to the Clinton era level. A sensible, moderate proposal, which Krugman would be in favor of.
     
    #47     Nov 20, 2012
  8. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Looking at things short term, I agree that we all should have some skin in a game. However, long term, population of the country is its future, and governmental policies should absolutely promote families. Even if it means the families, that have many kids, enjoy not paying taxes. The cost of raising children is quite high.
     
    #48     Nov 20, 2012
  9. Where is the "sensible, moderate proposal" to go back to Clinton-era spending levels as a % of GDP?

    I hope I'm one of the "wing nuts" you refer to, moonbat.

    BTW, regarding the article, you might want to familiarize yourself with the definition of the word "imply".

    If a GOP supporter wrote an article praising ANYTHING about the 1950's, the Left would be screeching that it was a "dog whistle" in support of a racist agenda. Letting Krugman get away with it may have been possible before everything political became scorched earth, but no more.
     
    #49     Nov 20, 2012
  10. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    This from someone who

    1) Has his own reading comprehension struggles.

    2) Makes dubious claims and hopes no one catches them (as I have before).

    3) Often thinks logical fallacies = cogent arguments.

    4) Lists "love and romance" as his interests at ET. Sounds much more like an academic or propagandist for the state than a successful trader or entrepreneur.

    Reader beware. I didn't want to go there, but I can only stand reading so many sweeping generalizations and ad hominem remarks.
     
    #50     Nov 20, 2012