KING OF BAIN....Oh My Gawd!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RCG Trader, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. This is wrong on so many levels.Blacks and Hispanics make up around 30 % of the population.Obama has the gay vote.Obama has over 51 % of the female vote.Obama has the lower income vote etc

    You are posting out of anger and not thinking clearly.The factors that I mention in this and my previous is the reason Obama has a 45 % approval today and only needs to chip away a few independents to win re election



    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html


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    #81     Jan 12, 2012
  2. Epic

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    Well, I think it is a bit stronger than you're suggesting, but your last statement is correct.

    My point was that even with all that rock solid support, he still only got 52% of the vote against a horrible opponent from a party that everyone wanted kicked out of the white house. The odds were incredibly in his favor to win and it should have been a landslide, but 52% isn't a landslide in a two-man race.
     
    #82     Jan 12, 2012
  3. Epic

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    Blacks/Hispanics only made up 19% of the voters in 2008, according to Pew Research Center.

    You are right that Blacks voted for Obama at like 95%, but for Hispanics it was only like 65%, and new trends show Hispanics increasingly favoring the GOP.
     
    #83     Jan 12, 2012
  4. jem

    jem

    exactly.
     
    #84     Jan 12, 2012
  5. So Obama already has around 20 % of the vote with African Americans alone


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...28/gIQAJa5eMP_story.html?wpisrc=al_politics_p




    Wary Hispanic voters favor Obama over GOP rivals



    President Obama holds a wide lead among Hispanic voters when matched against potential Republican challengers, even as widespread opposition to his administration’s stepped-up deportation policies act as a drag on his approval ratings among that group, according to a new poll.

    The survey, conducted by the Pew Hispanic Center, revealed a general-election weakness for Republicans among an increasingly influential voting bloc — with former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and Texas Gov. Rick Perry each winning less than one-fourth of the Hispanic vote in hypothetical matchups against Obama.

    Obama leads Romney by 68 percent to 23 percent and Perry by 69 percent to 23 percent among Hispanic voters, with a margin of error of plus or minus 5.2 percentage points for the sample.

    The president’s strong position with Latino voters comes even as Hispanic adults overall express disapproval with the way his administration is handling deportations of illegal immigrants, by 59 percent to 27 percent. (The margin of error among adults is plus or minus 3.6 percentage points.)

    The United States has deported more than 1 million illegal immigrants under Obama, removing an average of nearly 400,000 per year — a record rate that has drawn criticism from immigrant advocates who charge that the policy is tearing apart families and punishing harmless workers. Administration officials have said they are targeting criminals for deportation.

    Obama’s job approval rating has dropped among Hispanic voters by nine percentage points since last year, the survey found, dipping to 54 percent — in part because of a 15-point drop among Hispanic Democrats. His job approval among voters overall stood at 49 percent in a Washington Post-ABC News poll this month, meaning the president remains more popular among Hispanics than with the broader electorate.

    “Many Latinos are aware that deportations are up, and among them the president’s approval rating is lower,” said Mark H. Lopez, associate director of the Pew Hispanic Center. “However, even among them, the president wins in head-to-heads against Romney and Perry.”

    The findings suggest major challenges ahead for Republican strategists, many of whom believe the party cannot win the White House unless it slices into Obama’s support among Hispanics.

    In the latest available data from Gallup, Obama’s numbers among Hispanics have recovered alongside a rise among the broader public. Fully 60 percent of all Hispanic adults interviewed by Gallup in late December said they approved of Obama’s overall job performance, a high in polls back to May.

    The support level for Romney and Perry lags behind the 31 percent share won by party nominee John McCain in 2008. Obama won 67 percent of Hispanics that year.

    At the time, many Republican strategists said failing to improve that number in the future could doom Republican presidential contenders in battleground states with fast-growing Hispanic populations, such as Colorado and Florida. They set a 2012 goal of winning 40 percent, about the same level of support among Hispanics won by President George W. Bush in his 2004 reelection victory.

    Some Republicans have expressed concerns that Hispanics would feel alienated by hard-line rhetoric against illegal immigration in the GOP primary campaign — particularly from Romney, who has used the issue to attack Perry and former House speaker Newt Gingrich from the right. They worry that the debate might squander an opportunity to take advantage of Obama’s declining support among Hispanics, particularly centrists and conservatives.

    The survey shows Romney’s vulnerabilities, however. Even among voters who disagree with Obama’s deportation policies, a clear majority backs the president over Romney. Obama wins more than one-fourth of Hispanic voters who identify with or lean toward the Republican Party.
     
    #85     Jan 12, 2012
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  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum


    http://news.yahoo.com/cbs-poll-romn...-041221751.html


    "Romney and Paul most likely to defeat Obama

    A CBS News poll published late Monday found that in a general election contest against President Barack Obama, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Rep. Ron Paul would be the GOP candidates most likely to defeat the president.

    In hypothetical head-to-head match-ups, Romney would defeat Obama by a two-point margin, 47�“45 percent, according to the poll. Paul would come within one percentage point of the president.

    “Romney and Paul’s relatively strong showings are driven by support from independent voters,” reported CBS News...."
     
    #87     Jan 12, 2012

  8. That is one of the 2 polls Romney is winning...Obama is winning 7



    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html


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    #88     Jan 12, 2012
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    Your comment got me curious, so I turned on Rush Limbaugh for a bit. Sure enough, it wasn't long before one of the ads came on. Then two minutes later, disaster struck for Newt.

    Immediately following the ad, Rush himself goes off on a rant about what garbage those Bain ads are, and how he never thought he'd see the day when a conservative would make such a stupid argument against capitalism. Then he goes on to tell a caller that "the main investors in Bain are 401Ks, endowments, and pensions. So Romney's company did more than just help build businesses, it grew the investment portfolios for tens of thousands of average people."

    Of course that is paraphrased, but that was the gist of it. This really surprised me, because I've read dozens of articles where Rush is ripping Romney to pieces. Everyone knows that he doesn't like Romney, and he has always championed Newt and Rick Perry.
     
    #89     Jan 12, 2012
  10. Epic

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    No, I think you misunderstood. Blacks alone were only about 12%. So if he kept all of them, he already has around 12%. Personally I think that is almost exactly offset by the number of people who vote against him simply because he is black.

    Also, an honest person knows that a lot of his popularity amongst young voters came from the idea that they were making history, "electing the first black president". There can only ever be one first time for anything, and the excitement always fades after that.
     
    #90     Jan 12, 2012