Killing the Creator

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Jack.Yarn, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. stu

    stu

    ..if unlike jem you took care to understand what Penrose's proposition is actually saying.
     
    #21     Aug 28, 2017
  2. speedo

    speedo

    :D
     
    #22     Aug 28, 2017
  3. jem

    jem

    says the guy who has misrepresented what science says and or what I have said for close to a decade.

     
    #23     Aug 28, 2017
  4. What is it actually saying?
     
    #24     Aug 28, 2017
  5. stu

    stu

    We can go through it if you want but it'll make no difference to the topic.
    I've really no objections to Penrose's science killing the "Creator" again but In terms of your thread title, the laws of physics had already offed it.
     
    #25     Aug 29, 2017
  6. jem

    jem

    1. the laws of physics manifest an incredible fine tuning of the laws after a creation. (the big bang) the fine tunings are so special they can be seen as evidence of a Designer.

    Scientists are working very hard to come up with theories like inflation and the multiverse to explain the the very fine tuning of our universe.

    Speculation that there are almost infinite other universes is the main explanation most scientists now give.

    2. This Penrose theory may be different.

    I have to read it or listen to it again... or maybe Nitro can help.

    I did not catch where Penrose explained... how that pre big bang situation where everything is stretched out to point there is no energy left (or close to it) ... leads to a post big bang which is so special and fine tuned.

    If nitro wishes to explain that it would be helpful.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2017
    #26     Aug 31, 2017
  7. stu

    stu

    It need only be that big bangs or pre-big bangs mean the laws of physics will turn out to be no other way than they are and zap, the 'fine tuning Designer' promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
     
    #27     Sep 1, 2017