Kids = worthless investment?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by turkeyneck, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. Police arrest 16 in twisted gang rape of 11-year-old girl in Cleveland, Texas; more arrests possible

    More than a dozen teens and men are believed to be involved in the nightmarish gang rape of an 11-year-old girl in Texas.

    At least 16 people, ranging in age from 14 to 27, have been arrested in the past four months in the small town of Cleveland, 50 miles northeast of Houston.

    The most recent came Friday, when police busted four high school students. Authorities believe more arrests are likely.

    "There have been leads during our investigation that have alerted us to other possible persons of interest," Cleveland Assistant Police Chief Darrell Broussard told CNN. "The investigation is ongoing."

    The girl, whose name has not been released because of her age, told police at least 20 people attacked her last Thanksgiving. The vicious assult was caught on camera and video, authorities said.

    The macabre attack began when 19-year-old Timothy Ellis lured the girl out of her home and asked if she wanted to go "riding around," according to a police officer's statement obtained by the Houston Chronicle.

    Cops said he took her to an empty house and forced her to strip under threat of violence. Several other men showed up and each raped her.

    The sickos then took the 11-year-old to an abandoned trailer, where they continued to have sex with her, as well as use cell phones to take pictures and record video.

    "These guys knew she was in middle school," the girl's mother, identified only as Maria, told reporters. "You could tell whenever you talked to her. She still loves stuffed teddy bears."

    The video quickly went viral, sparking arrests after the teens in it were recognized by fellow students. The victim, described as a troubled young girl, was also recognized by several people.

    See pictures of suspects here.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ld_girl_in_cleveland_texas.html#ixzz1G6B3r5Tz
     
    #71     Mar 9, 2011
  2. Piece of cake. You can hardcore lecture and teach your kids till they are about 12-14 years, you better hope they heard you and understand where you are coming from. After that, 15 years and older, if you want to succeed, you have to shut the hell up and listen. Advice better be one sentence snippets because that is all they hear.

    Kids love to talk AND tell you their problems, the reason they don't is because they don't want to hear your bullshit. If you aren't passing judgement on them every waking hour, accept them, they'll accept your guidance.

    :cool:
     
    #72     Mar 9, 2011
  3. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    Be a father and then a friend....I think you are correct.
     
    #73     Mar 9, 2011
  4. Animals are 1000 times better than these useless human beings and people shoot and kill animals if animals kill or injure people

    Pornography is usually a huge factor that influenced motives behind these actions.

    Online porn contributed to gang rape: counsellor

    A women's rape counsellor says online mainstream pornography bears some of the responsibility for the recent brutal gang rape of a 16-year-old girl and the immediate, widespread online distribution of pictures of the attack.

    The attack happened at a Pitt Meadows, B.C. teenage rave party, and graphic photos were distributed across Facebook and other social media sites. Police said they were shocked at posted comments that disparaged the victim and suggested she cooperated in the attack. The photos and abusive comments continue to be distributed through social media.

    Related: Police disgusted by photo sharing of rave gang-rape

    "The proliferation of pornography on the internet makes it much more acceptable for the degradation of women and the rape of women to appear on Facebook," said Daisy Kler, spokeswoman for Vancouver Rape Relief and Women's Shelter.

    "I think that's a new phenomenon. Much of the pornography available to kids on the internet is depictions of women being violently raped…and I think the acceptability of that kind of depiction of degrading women has influenced the acceptability of rape and sexual assault portrayed on Facebook."

    Police believe the girl was drugged and raped by several teenage boys some time on Friday night or Saturday morning. Maple Ridge RCMP have charged one youth with production of child pornography for allegedly photographing the gang rape and distributing the extremely graphic images. Police say those pictures made their way onto sites such as Facebook, and have also been distributed widely on Blackberrys and iPhones, making it difficult for police to curtail.

    Cpl. Jennifer Hyland said police are appealing to the public to cooperate with their efforts to stop the distribution of the images.

    "Anybody who has possession of these photos needs to be aware it is child pornography," said Hyland. "They have to delete them and take them off [their phone or computer] and tell anybody they know who is sending them to stop doing that. They could very well be criminally charged for posting and distributing child pornography."

    Kler said kids start watching pornography -- much of it degrading toward women -- at a younger age.

    "I do know that the average age kids view pornography for the first time is between the ages of 9 and 11," Kler said.

    "The whole mythology sold to men and the fantasy perpetuated through most pornography is how women are willing participants who really love sex and really want five men having sex with them. That is a predominant image and theory that's being put out by pornography."

    Kler also commended the victim and called on the girl's friends to support her through a traumatic ordeal.

    "This young woman is a very, very brave young woman and we really call on her community and other young women in her life to stand beside her. We ask that they not contribute to any discussion about her character, her personality, or anything like that. This is the time to stand up and speak out about violence against women and girls, and to be showing that it is a crime."

    http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/...ellor_100916/20100916?hub=BritishColumbiaHome
     
    #74     Mar 9, 2011
  5. Way to go nutmeg, good advise.
     
    #75     Mar 9, 2011
  6. ...ok my future kids won't be attending any raves...
     
    #76     Mar 9, 2011
  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    And of course, you should accommodate their wishes and not the other way around, because after all you are the father, parent and provider....

    P.S.: There might be a slight trace of sarcasm in the above sentence...
     
    #77     Mar 9, 2011

  8. There is a strong discussion/debate going on for this news article in a Muslim forum. But no discussion for this in English forum. Have you lost your voice and writing. Don't you people eat anymore? Who are you scared of? Speak up.
     
    #78     Mar 9, 2011
  9. I understand but not as difficult to appear to accomodate their wishes with illusion. Kids "wishes" change more often than the weather, gotta keep them off gaurd.
     
    #79     Mar 9, 2011
  10. lets see. obama has a normal marriage with normal well adjusted well educated children and he is an idiot that should not be allowed to breed?
    the republican front runner sarah palin ,acts like an uneducated moron. has one kid knocked up with an out of wedlock baby, a husband who she has admited she never talks to and obama is the one who shouldnt breed?
     
    #80     Mar 9, 2011