keystone trading group

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by bonds, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. Obviously a B/D is NOT Retail. A B/D can offer leverage to anyone they choose--those rules have never changed. Typically B/Ds only hire licensed traders b/c of compliance issues. The particular B/D I am referring to will be accepting both licensed and NON-licensed traders through legitimate avenues--unlike Tuco and many other similiar firms out there--which only have a matter of time before shutting down.
     
    #101     Dec 18, 2008
  2. r-in

    r-in

    In talking to at least 2 other B/D's in the past they said they couldn't offer anything beyond retail margin, but they also never take retail accounts. Please explain how your firm is able to offer better to retail to non employees and unlicensed traders.
     
    #102     Dec 18, 2008
  3. A couple things:

    1. B/Ds CAN offer higher leverage but almost all do not w/o licenses due to compliance and lack of funding

    2. This B/D is very, very well funded and the additional leverage is provide directly by the B/D...not the traders' equity (as in the Tuco case)
     
    #103     Dec 18, 2008
  4. r-in

    r-in

    Interesting, I'll check into that information. You come off much better when you explain, than the anonymous promos.
     
    #104     Dec 18, 2008
  5. tomu

    tomu




    So you are saying that the SEC's Reg-T margin rules are all a scam!!

    And BD's can offer whatever leverage they want to!!!

    But all the BD's in the USA have colluded to only offer margin consistent with the fake SEC 1933 and 1934 act rules!!!


    Can a moderateor please kick this asshole off and erase all his posts and ban his IP?

    Trader Jones head must be about to explode with all this free advertising going on on Elitetrader!
     
    #105     Dec 18, 2008
  6. tomu...pay more attention to detail. B/D leverage has not changed. However, the amount of leverage provided by the B/D can be to licensed OR UNLICENSED traders. This is at the B/Ds discretion. If the B/D has 100M in cap, for example, they can pretty much give most of the traders on this site whatever BP they deem appropriate.

    I'm an asshole for providing this?? It's more like explaining knowledge to children that are clearly uninformed about how the rules actually work.
     
    #106     Dec 18, 2008
  7. Wow. Another screaming match. It is amazing how many people have no clue about their business. That is why there are people who trade for a living and those who make a living so they can trade. There is a difference.

    Most traders on Elite Trader probably do not make money, consistently.
     
    #107     Dec 18, 2008
  8. tomu

    tomu

    So UNLICENSED traders DON'T have to put up any deposit or pay any bullshit TRAINING FEE and the BD will eat all their losses and the unlicensed trader has NO RISK and gets a ton of Buying Power??
     
    #108     Dec 18, 2008
  9. No tomu no no....you have to put up Risk Cap, you are giving BP based on your trading record/style, and the losses are taken from your Risk Cap monitored by a Risk Manager.

    If you give one more stupid response I'm just going to have to ignore you.
     
    #109     Dec 18, 2008
  10. Actually, I BELIEVE YOU....after seeing all of the crappy deals with Sterling out there.
     
    #110     Dec 18, 2008