Ketovore, anyone?

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  1. namche

    namche

    Yes, great thread thanks to all.
     
    #121     Feb 13, 2025
  2. #122     Feb 16, 2025
  3. Magna

    Magna Administrator

    With diabetes and pre-diabetes raging out of control (even in teens) it's odd that 108 years ago, way back in 1917, they seemed to know how to cure/prevent diabetes. Obviously some of the included items are, shall we say, controversial but still not bad for ancient times.

    DiabeticCookery.jpg
     
    #123     Feb 17, 2025
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  4. Magna

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    “All of us are worth more sick than we are healthy.
    There is no incentive for the healthcare industry to heal us.”

    -- Cary Kelly
    Author of Carnicopia ─ The Meat-Based Cookbook (Your Doctor Doesn't Want You to Read)

    I used to think chronic disease was just bad luck or bad genes.
    Then I realized it was mostly bad food.

    Health isn’t found in a prescription. It’s in your plate.
    -- Elie Jarrouge, MD
     
    #124     Feb 20, 2025
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  5. Did you watch the video, Magna?
     
    #125     Feb 20, 2025
  6. Magna

    Magna Administrator

    Interesting video by Haircafe on cholesterol and statins by someone who describes himself as "The world's finest source of hair loss information" and "This is first and foremost a hair-loss channel". Aside from his annoying, bombastic presentation I prefer the thoughts of medical doctors with a nutritional background. The following consolidates a few observations by heart surgeon Philip Ovadia MD:

    "Half of the patients I operate on have normal to low cholesterol levels."

    "Granted there are a lot more people doing the low fat diet and taking their statins than there are carnivores in the world, but I have seen a lot more patients on low fat diets taking their statins with cholesterol under 100 that roll in with heart attacks than I've seen carnivores that have shown up with heart attacks."

    "The reality of the situation is that for most people with elevated LDL cholesterol that's going to be combined with metabolic disease... 90% of adults essentially are metabolically unhealthy, so for most of the people with high LDL they have that very dangerous combination of metabolic disease and high LDL."

    “Cholesterol is part of the process that ultimately leads to heart disease, but it's not what starts the process. What starts the process is poor metabolic health and insulin resistance... Insulin resistance is a much bigger risk factor for heart disease than LDL cholesterol.”


    Bottom line ─ heart surgeon Ovadia makes the point, contrary to many doctors, that it's not about the amount of your cholesterol, it's about the quality of the cholesterol which matters (eg., the size of the LDL particles), and the backdrop that the cholesterol is functioning in. Good quality environment comes from not being insulin resistant.

    As always, pick your own poison.
     
    #126     Feb 20, 2025
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  7. Admittedly, the source of the video was unexpected. :)

    And yet the countless peer-reviewed studies performed around the world almost unanimously do not support a carnivore diet of the kind you describe, per the video which cites many of these studies in some detail, along with the various metanalyses thereof.

    Indeed, you have picked your poison. :D
     
    #127     Feb 20, 2025
  8. Magna

    Magna Administrator

    I'm not suggesting the carnivore/ketovore diet cures the common cold... but maybe Ken is doing just that :sneaky:.

     
    #128     Feb 20, 2025
  9. The guy in my video talks about Berry, and not in a good way. He's mentioned him in other unrelated videos having to do with health. And not in a good way.

    I actually like the guy's style. A bit over the top, to be sure, but he packs his videos full with information, with the only filler being his oddball humor.
     
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    #129     Feb 20, 2025
  10. ph1l

    ph1l

    AI agrees ... well, maybe not all AI [​IMG]:D
    https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-ken-berry-md-a-quack-lO5hs7y8TXORY7UM7eyBBQ
     
    #130     Feb 20, 2025
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