Kerry says "fear of guns" keeping foreign students away from U.S. schools"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Clubber Lang, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Origins of what, species, life, the universe?
     
    #11     Apr 16, 2013
  2. pspr

    pspr

    Some would wonder if English were your native language as much as you have trouble reading and writing it.
     
    #12     Apr 16, 2013
  3. BSAM

    BSAM

    If the people who founded the country and wrote the constitution were running things today, would they outlaw guns in the country or outlaw muslims in the country?
     
    #13     Apr 16, 2013
  4. Gees I was just reading about that the other day. We had a Muslim population back then and the situation was mentioned. I"ll try to find it.
     
    #14     Apr 16, 2013
  5. In 1776, John Adams published "Thoughts on Government," in which he praises the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a "sober inquirer after truth" alongside Confucius, Zoroaster, Socrates, and other thinkers.

    In 1785, George Washington stated a willingness to hire "Mahometans," as well as people of any nation or religion, to work on his private estate at Mount Vernon if they were "good workmen." It was a rhetorical statement, as he hired no such people.[36]

    In 1790, the South Carolina legislative body granted special legal status to a community of Moroccans. In 1797, President John Adams signed a treaty declaring the United States had no "character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen".[37]





    A group of immigrants, most wearing fezzes, surrounding a large vessel which is decorated with the star and crescent symbol of Islam and the Ottoman Turks (1902-1913)
    In his autobiography, published in 1791, Benjamin Franklin stated that he "did not disapprove" of a meeting place in Pennsylvania that was designed to accommodate preachers of all religions. Franklin wrote that "even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service."[28]

    Thomas Jefferson defended religious freedom in America including those of Muslims. Jefferson explicitly mentioned Muslims when writing about the movement for religious freedom in Virginia. In his autobiography Jefferson wrote "[When] the [Virginia] bill for establishing religious freedom... was finally passed,... a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word 'Jesus Christ,' so that it should read 'a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion.' The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend within the mantle of its protection the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination."[38] While President, Jefferson also participated in an iftar with the Ambassador of Tunisia in 1809.[39]

    [edit] Anti-Islam sentiments

    However, not all politicians were pleased with the religious neutrality of the Constitution, which prohibited any religious test. Anti-Federalists in the 1788 North Carolina ratifying convention opposed the new constitution; one reason was the fear that some day Catholics or Muslims might be elected president. William Lancaster said:.[40]
    Let us remember that we form a government for millions not yet in existence.... In the course of four or five hundred years, I do not know how it will work. This is most certain, that Papists may occupy that chair, and Mahometans may take it. I see nothing against it.
    Indeed, in 1788 many opponents of the Constitution pointed to the Middle East, especially the Ottoman Empire as a negative object lesson against standing armies and centralized state authority.[41]
     
    #15     Apr 16, 2013
  6. horseman

    horseman

    If only all those illegals crossing our southern border every day had that same fear of guns...
     
    #16     Apr 16, 2013
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    What's to fear? Border patrol has been castrated by Obama and if a land owner does anything to protect the border/their property they get prosecuted by Eric Holder for a hate crime.

    We might as well bus them in and save them the walk.
     
    #17     Apr 16, 2013
  8. horseman

    horseman

    My point was that if the foreign students are staying home because of their fear of guns in America, then if the illegals had the same fear, they too would stay home.
     
    #18     Apr 16, 2013
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Castrated? Border patrol has never been so beefed up.
     
    #19     Apr 16, 2013
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Oh I know what you meant.
     
    #20     Apr 16, 2013