Kerrisdale Capital "Bitcoin mining sector won't be around in 5 years"

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by The_Krakenite, Jun 14, 2024.

  1. So...

    I finally read their report here:
    https://www.kerrisdalecap.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/RIOT-Kerrisdale.pdf

    Looks like they even quoted a time-line for the Bitcoin miner implosion, depending on Bitcoin's range:


    Great, now everyone knows when the bust is going to happen. Bet the house and YOLO!

    Incidentally, they shorted by purchasing PUTs on RIOT. Now I know who was the other person on the end of my short-PUT RIOT contracts. And more interesting, my ITM short-puts have profited quite well, despite still being ITM at the moment :fistbump:

    They certainly could have played this much safer by loading up on calls or shorting PUTs on BitFarms, considering they talked about so much of that miner in that paper. They even knew about the hostile take-over. Naturally, BitFarms is rallying hard...

    So I've done very well on BitFarms. My stocks are up a lot, and my short-PUTs are also all profitable again.:thumbsup: Strange that Kerrisdale missed this obvious play. :wtf:

    Other fun-fact. The paper rants and rants regarding the Corsicana site. Yet doesn't seem to 'get it'. Corsicana is one of the only sites left that miners can use 1GW of power. This essentially gives RIOT an impermeable 'moat'. But... unless you are a value-investor, you may not notice these things :banghead:
     
    #11     Jun 15, 2024
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  2. jbusse

    jbusse

    On "What Bitcoin Did," they recently interviewed IREN, a miner who said its cost to mine one bitcoin is $17K. Sounds like a pretty decent profit margin at current bitcoin prices.
     
    #12     Jun 15, 2024
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  3. NoahA

    NoahA

    You are welcome to lobby to kick the miners out of your city. But when they leave, your rates will actually go up.

    In places like Texas, the production isn't consistent because of all the wind and solar. So its not simply turning off a power plant, which would actually take hours to do. Wind can stop blowing in one second and drastically cut output in no time. You as a customer would of course complain if you lost power. So then they have to build another plant to always be running, sine you don't want a blackout, just in case the wind stops. But this extra plant will cause your rates to skyrocket. So you complain again.

    What the power company needs in a buyer who always needs electricity, so they can make use of this extra plant, but be willing to shut down in case the wind stops blowing somewhere. That money that the bitcoin mining firm gets is compensation for them not making money, but ensuring that you have power.

    If you don't want to pay more for your electricity, just be prepared to deal with blackouts. But most customers will not be very happy, and most will choose to pay more money to always have it.
     
    #13     Jun 16, 2024
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  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Trump said all Bitcoin should be mined in the USA. I am not kidding.
     
    #14     Jun 16, 2024
  5. Finished going through their short paper on MSTR now.

    Looks like it's a tad misleading at first. They are not really short MSTR, and admit it has positive cash-flow. They are simply short what they believe is an over-sized premium on the shares in contrast to spot-BTC. So they are in a more safe pairs-trade; long BTC and short MSTR.

    They posted publicly on March 28...

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    #15     Jun 16, 2024
  6. orbit23

    orbit23

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    #16     Jun 17, 2024
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    #17     Jun 17, 2024
  8. orbit23

    orbit23

    bitcoin mining is so stupid

    these miners solve ARBITRARY mathematical equations. THE MORE miners there are plugged in, the harder the equations become to solve. You are wasting energy and polluting the environment for no benefit.

    More miners != more security. Nothing gets better with more miners.

    These miners concentrate into large facilities and then there is even more centralization into like 5 mining pools(where miners cooperate for efficiency). Those few pools mine 90% of blocks.

    Bitcoin decentralization is a myth.

    At surface level Bitcoin looks like a good idea, but as soon as you dig deeper into it you realize how retarded it really is.


    And the core idea upon which Bitcoin was built was to NOT TRUST any entity. YET we are trusting a single offshore company (Tether) with no regulatory oversight or financial audits.

    The "store of value" and "digital gold" aspect depends entirely on Tether to be legit, but we have no audits, no proof of their backing.

    The entire thing is basically a geniously conceived ponzi scheme. Tether prints fake dollars out of nothing. People think these IOUs are worth $1 and they use them to prop the market.

    As price goes up more and more people start believing into Bitcoin, adding fuel to the fire.

    Wall street loves to pump&dump useless garbage, so they approve the ETFs and now your average mom&pop can buy into a ponzi scheme, presented as "revoutionary digital gold".
     
    #18     Jun 17, 2024
  9. I believe there is quite some truth to that. But... they got the idea from FIAT.
     
    #19     Jun 17, 2024
  10. That happens, my life is ruined :banghead:
     
    #20     Jun 17, 2024