O: "How'd you lose your eye?" P: "Bird shit" O: "You mean a bird shit in your eye?" P: "Yea, it was first day with the hook."
typical manifestation of the need for a little more study. Excellent rhetorical skills do not substitute for education in the field of discussion. "Innocent until proven guilty" is not a standard in civil matters. For the layman I refer you to the difference between OJ Criminal trial vs Civil trial.
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The fact is that in the OJ civil trial, the burden of proof rested on the plaintiff. The State of Hawaii was satisfied, so the burden of proof rests on those other states to prove that Hawaii's position is false. The court must necessarily squash any state who passes a law that is not their domain, i.e. citizenship/natural born citizen of the USA. What truly qualifies the birthers as conspiracy theorists, is that even though there is some form of proof, i.e. the certificate of live birth...there is no proof of a BC existing in any other country. However, this doesn't stop the whacked out from coming to a conclusion that Obama is not a natural born US citizen. When the term natural born is equivocal, there is no evidence that Obama is not natural born. He is natural born until such time that the Supreme Court says otherwise. He is, until proved otherwise.
I assure you that if Obama's politics were ultra right wing, this would never have been an issue. Republicans would have Satan as president as long as Satan supported the republican agenda...which some argue, Satan does.
Apparently Chuck Norris is gearing up for a run at the Presdency as a copy of his birth certificate was recently released.
so your are now changing the standard to... if you do not know, that means he is until proven otherwise. That is an interesting standard. Kind of leads to some very interesting analogies which I will refrain from making because on this issue my concern has been the constitution not the person.