Karen the "Supertrader"

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by drmark27, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. I agree. You can pick up nickels in front of steamrollers, eat like a bird and sh*t like an elephant, etc -for a whole career as long as you get lucky at a few critical times.

    It's a variation on a common theme and I think some folks make entire successful careers out of it.

    Savvy money managers will run a regression on the fund returns and, if volatility appears to explain the returns, they will look out for a premium-selling scheme.
     
    #31     Dec 11, 2012
  2. no question about it. What is this "super trader" fund? who are the auditors? Why is she promoting herself on youtube?

    surf
     
    #32     Dec 11, 2012
  3. clacy

    clacy

    I'm skeptical as well. Who hands millions over to a "trading team" made up of a couple of former CPA's and a lawyer that met at a freaking trading seminar?

    This whole thing smells fishy to me....
     
    #33     Dec 11, 2012
  4. Unless it was sosnoff himself who invested with the whole thing planned as a marketing campaign, I don't know anyone who would back such a program ....
     
    #34     Dec 11, 2012
  5. Ash1972

    Ash1972

    Because they either:

    i) are still in the super profitable stage immediately prior to blowing up

    ii) can't remember the last time(s) they blew up
     
    #35     Dec 11, 2012

  6. some are lucky enough to quit or change before the inevitable......
     
    #36     Dec 11, 2012
  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    What I don't get is, why were those 2 schmoes jizzing all over her in the video, instead of asking her, how does your system perform in a 4 sigma event??? What would be your loss when the SPX drops 20% in 3 days?

    They were talking about her like she discovered the wheel. Let's make it clear:

    1. Selling premium is nothing new.
    2. Selling premium is not really trading. It is being in the insurance business.

    So calling her a super trader is an incredible stretch, and those 2 "experts" should have made clear the dangers of such strategy. But I guess they had to promote someone interesting/successful.....

    Now to give her credit, they are probably very good at managing the positions and they don't take a full one, only when there is a big market move. I think one fund being completely for charity is a bit fishy. It is either some kind of tax write off or helping to bring in clients...
     
    #37     Dec 11, 2012
  8. There is nothing fake about her returns .. Tom is already a multi millionaire and has better ways to make money than coming up with a fake trader who could easily be exposed by someone that knows her if she is fake .

    The reason why everyone can't do what she does is CAPITAL .. You need millions to really get into selling far out the money options and make meaningful money .

    Most People just buy calls or puts because they are looking for lottery type returns . She, on the other hand makes a steady predictable return .
     
    #38     Dec 11, 2012
  9. Well, then, proving she is legit should be just as easy. Why are no details provided about her? What's the purpose of the video?
     
    #39     Dec 11, 2012
  10. southall

    southall

    I like her, she is down to earth, not full of her self like other option sellers who eventually blow up due to big egos eg Niederhoffer.
    I doubt she will have problems managing her risk properly when volatility goes crazy.
     
    #40     Dec 11, 2012