Kaine's Catholic problem

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by jem, Oct 5, 2016.

  1. jem

    jem

    So we saw Nitro get triggered by the Christian stuff in the debate.
    Perhaps this is why....

    If you are a Catholic politician who supports abortion stop claiming you are a devout Catholic. It's nefarious. You might be able to say you love God, but you are a deceptive Catholic. (at best)

    --
    In her article, Sweas noted that Kaine has “a 100 percent pro-choice voting record for his time in the Senate from both NARAL and Planned Parenthood,” which has led many critics to call him a “hypocrite.”

    While Kaine offers lip service to being “personally opposed” to abortion (à la MarioCuomo), his words ring hollow to those who understand abortion to be a social evil that destroys the most vulnerable members of society.

    Being personally opposed to abortion is like being personally opposed to racism or wife-beating. You can’t just “opt out” while supporting other people’s right to do harm. As one writer noted, “Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one!” is as silly as saying, “Don’t like rape? Don’t rape anyone!”

    In Tuesday’s debate, Kaine trotted out his Catholic faith once again, but when challenged about conflicts between his faith and his voting record, Kaine deflected the question, saying that he doesn’t think that “the doctrines of any one religion should be mandated for everyone,” as if the protection of innocent life were merely a quibble of doctrine.

    As Saint John Paul II wrote in 1995, the legal toleration of abortion “can in no way claim to be based on respect for the conscience of others, precisely because society has the right and the duty to protect itself against the abuses which can occur in the name of conscience and under the pretext of freedom.”

    Considering this is an election year, the U.S. Catholic bishops have been unusually vocal in their criticism of Tim Kaine’s claims to being a faithful Catholic, citing his open dissent from essential moral teachings of the Church.

    In a Facebook post titled “VP Pick, Tim Kaine, a Catholic?” Bishop Thomas J. Tobin of Providence noted that Kaine “has been widely identified as a Roman Catholic” while at the same time “he publicly supports ‘freedom of choice’ for abortion, same-sex marriage, gay adoptions, and the ordination of women as priests.”

    “All of these positions are clearly contrary to well-established Catholic teachings; all of them have been opposed by Pope Francis as well,” Tobin wrote.

    “Senator Kaine has said, ‘My faith is central to everything I do.’ But apparently, and unfortunately, his faith isn’t central to his public, political life,” Bishop Tobin concluded.

    In a column in his diocesan newspaper, Philadelphia Archbishop Charles J. Chaput also took issue with Kaine for his open dissent from Catholic teaching, while bringing in sitting Vice President, Joe Biden as well.
     
  2. The media have tried to paint Kaine as a moderate from safe, moderate Virginia. In reality, he is to the left of even Hillary on most matters. He was a criminal defense attorney before getting elected. Who knows what Hillary actually believes, but this guy is a genuine far left social justice warrior type. The scary thing is, he stands a good chance of being president given Hillary's obvious health issues.
     
    murray t turtle likes this.
  3. %% Its like FOX News Sunday said ''we dont know if the Russians are against HillarySocialist [ most likely] or were trying to help Trump-Pence'' The Russians never forgot the NAZI [National Socialists] invasion of Moscow, which was rightly leaked by TN Democrat Cordell Hull/ US Sec of State. Wonder why chief clown Schumer ignores that ??LOL-LOL