Just wore out... anyone using Trading services for trades?

NoodleStrudle · May 16, 2018

Holy crap, you definitely have got serious issues. Nonetheless, all the best to you.

Handle123 said:
Am sure you would have to sign a contract not to share for starters, and to learn spreading is a fine art that can be learned, but just cause you do a course or even get one on one mentoring, it won't make you into a successful trader alone, but @bone material is right on from a few I spoke to who have taken it, plus I think he has unique software that he shares or leases. I had to make my own and I do spreading as well for my own accounts.

I think many get to a point in their trading where it becomes ultimate boredom, you just have gotten too use to being good at trading and get urges to sell to the public to have a little spice to the boredom. I did the same in late 90s till few years ago, as trading is lonesome and boring at some stage, need interaction, why not? Direction am taking now is starting a Hedge fund end of the year, see if I am good enough for that.

Most of my problems happened when I became chronic with Sarcoidosis and Pulmonary gave me high dosages of steroids, I gained 262lbs in two years, appetite never goes away. Then I got Fibromyalgeria to boot from the weight then brain cancer, so I was lean and in shape ten years ago. While in London in 2010, had appointment with Fibro physician said he tell me the cure me 30 seconds for the Fibro, my body saw hormonal foods as poison, so got off meats, dairy, fats and a no added salt diet and I am still on veggies, fruits and nuts, organic cream I take for coffee which I drink 2-3 pots to stay awake due to Sarcoidosis which there is no cure. I have lost 216lbs and slowly get down to old weight of 204, 46 to go.

I do take a large amount of supplements and vitamins to include 5,700mg gingerroot, 2,000mg Turmeric Curcumin extract, B-complex 2500%, CoQ10 200mg, Vit C 5000%, 400mg Magnesium, 1600mg Calcium, 2-b acidophilus, also take a host of drugs to include Andro-gel as body stopped long ago in producing hormones(Have Klinefelters extra chromosome), Warfarin-blood thinner, so this drug have to watch out for more than I am taking as many supplements thin out blood as well. As far as exercise, I walk 7 miles a day plus go to the gym twice a day at 3am and at 2pm for cardio and weight training.

I have never been right mentally in my life, never will expect this to change, bi-polar, ADHD, depression and now another label of Aspergers, extreme iq but often feel dumber than a post. All comes from fathers side, never take any medications for any of it as none works and you have to believe to a degree it works and I don't. You learn where you belong in life, learn your weaknesses, be honest with yourself, all you can do. And work to keep the good friends one has as you age, you lose friends through death. I have overcome much, gallbladder, hernia, countless biopsies, Brain cancer-one surgery and 2 other procedures, now use sleep apnea machine, 4 kidney surgeries, prostrate cancer, hip cancer, double blood clots, died twice, 2 cataracts, and glaucoma coming, high blood pressure, hay fever, am sure am missing something. Require one cataract to be repaired am sure. Most of my friends happen to be physicians, nice trade off of all have stock portfolios and I need mountain of care. Most into supplements but I will check out the coconut oil(why organic-it is like a rock to get into) and I do know a great deal of cancer as I am more prone to have it all my life, am God's joke I believe.

I do agree with you on few points, but when I have gone off all that I take, I end up in ICU and spend week there, yea get tired of taking all the crap. Most people don't know when you take a supplement or vitamin, only 15% goes into the body and rest is flushed out. So I crush mine, tastes bloody horrible and I don't do anything with milk cept cream for coffee and tea.

I have too much genetic problems that will never change, thank goodness am not like a bubble boy. I am actually now allergic to fish, anything from the ocean, do eat fresh water fish but most of that now is from fish farms, but someone has developed fresh water lobster.

Thank you all for your posts, very appreciated.
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Arnie · May 16, 2018

Jdesey said:
I think I have just about had it with figuring this whole thing out. I have had success, had failure, but basically just gotten nowhere after years and years of solid effort.

There are these services such as "collective 2" where you can subscribe and get a traders trades. All kinds of strategies, futures, stocks, options, etc.. this is different from a internet "room" which I have done in the past.

I would not do the automated thing, I still want to push the buttons and be involved.

Can anyone relate to the frustration? Anyone out there gone the route to take trades from a service?
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I'm currently subscribed to Adam Johnson's "Bullseye Brief" through IB. It's free for 45 days through IB. I think his portfolio is up 12-15%. I do my own thing, but it is sometimes good to get other perspectives. Another one I really like is Lowry Research. You can download a bunch of white papers for free and get some good ideas for research.

This business is a whole lot easier when you take a longer approach. You'll make more money sitting on your hands than trying to trade a squiggly line on a chart.

https://bullseyebrief.com/

https://www.lowryresearch.com/

Pekelo · May 16, 2018

Sorry for the offtopic, but can't stand stupidity...

NoodleStrudle said:
Really? Please criticize the message not the messenger.
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Really. I can list at least 5 supplements from personal experience that helped ME. That doesn't necessary mean they will help everybody.

Half of the drugs what your doctor prescribe you is supplement based or they have a supplement that is a close equivalent.

The TA example is also perfect, just because one TA doesn't work it doesn't mean other can not. Now you could say in both cases more of them don't work than what works, but don't over generalize and throw everything out...

Please address the issue and don't bullshit yourself...

NoodleStrudle · May 16, 2018

We need you in the TA forums. You could potentially save many newbies and social media veterans thousands in losses. They claim the opposite holds true

Arnie said:
I'm currently subscribed to Adam Johnson's "Bullseye Brief" through IB. It's free for 45 days through IB. I think his portfolio is up 12-15%. I do my own thing, but it is sometimes good to get other perspectives. Another one I really like is Lowry Research. You can download a bunch of white papers for free and get some good ideas for research.

This business is a whole lot easier when you take a longer approach. You'll make more money sitting on your hands than trying to trade a squiggly line on a chart.

https://bullseyebrief.com/

https://www.lowryresearch.com/
More...

NoodleStrudle · May 16, 2018

You added zero value, because something works for you (so you claim with zero evidence, but hey, I bite) has zero value nor does it generalize. It's like you saying "hey for me myself I experienced that there is no climate change in my mom's basement". That may hold true for your particular case but goes in the face of accepted scientific evidence. If TA worked every single professional buy side and hedge fund trader would use it and make hundreds of millions (none of them would risk engaging in insider trading and be afraid to get caught) . If supplements broadly had any effect at all then millions of people would be healthier which they are not. You can bullshit yourself (to use your terminology) but don't mislead others please

Pekelo said:
Really. I can list at least 5 supplements from personal experience that helped ME. That doesn't necessary mean they will help everybody.

Half of the drugs what your doctor prescribe you is supplement based or they have a supplement that is a close equivalent.

The TA example is also perfect, just because one TA doesn't work it doesn't mean other can not.

Please address the issue and don't bullshit yourself...
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RRY16 · May 16, 2018

Handle123 said:
Am sure you would have to sign a contract not to share for starters, and to learn spreading is a fine art that can be learned, but just cause you do a course or even get one on one mentoring, it won't make you into a successful trader alone, but @bone material is right on from a few I spoke to who have taken it, plus I think he has unique software that he shares or leases. I had to make my own and I do spreading as well for my own accounts.

I think many get to a point in their trading where it becomes ultimate boredom, you just have gotten too use to being good at trading and get urges to sell to the public to have a little spice to the boredom. I did the same in late 90s till few years ago, as trading is lonesome and boring at some stage, need interaction, why not? Direction am taking now is starting a Hedge fund end of the year, see if I am good enough for that.

Most of my problems happened when I became chronic with Sarcoidosis and Pulmonary gave me high dosages of steroids, I gained 262lbs in two years, appetite never goes away. Then I got Fibromyalgeria to boot from the weight then brain cancer, so I was lean and in shape ten years ago. While in London in 2010, had appointment with Fibro physician said he tell me the cure me 30 seconds for the Fibro, my body saw hormonal foods as poison, so got off meats, dairy, fats and a no added salt diet and I am still on veggies, fruits and nuts, organic cream I take for coffee which I drink 2-3 pots to stay awake due to Sarcoidosis which there is no cure. I have lost 216lbs and slowly get down to old weight of 204, 46 to go.

I do take a large amount of supplements and vitamins to include 5,700mg gingerroot, 2,000mg Turmeric Curcumin extract, B-complex 2500%, CoQ10 200mg, Vit C 5000%, 400mg Magnesium, 1600mg Calcium, 2-b acidophilus, also take a host of drugs to include Andro-gel as body stopped long ago in producing hormones(Have Klinefelters extra chromosome), Warfarin-blood thinner, so this drug have to watch out for more than I am taking as many supplements thin out blood as well. As far as exercise, I walk 7 miles a day plus go to the gym twice a day at 3am and at 2pm for cardio and weight training.

I have never been right mentally in my life, never will expect this to change, bi-polar, ADHD, depression and now another label of Aspergers, extreme iq but often feel dumber than a post. All comes from fathers side, never take any medications for any of it as none works and you have to believe to a degree it works and I don't. You learn where you belong in life, learn your weaknesses, be honest with yourself, all you can do. And work to keep the good friends one has as you age, you lose friends through death. I have overcome much, gallbladder, hernia, countless biopsies, Brain cancer-one surgery and 2 other procedures, now use sleep apnea machine, 4 kidney surgeries, prostrate cancer, hip cancer, double blood clots, died twice, 2 cataracts, and glaucoma coming, high blood pressure, hay fever, am sure am missing something. Require one cataract to be repaired am sure. Most of my friends happen to be physicians, nice trade off of all have stock portfolios and I need mountain of care. Most into supplements but I will check out the coconut oil(why organic-it is like a rock to get into) and I do know a great deal of cancer as I am more prone to have it all my life, am God's joke I believe.

I do agree with you on few points, but when I have gone off all that I take, I end up in ICU and spend week there, yea get tired of taking all the crap. Most people don't know when you take a supplement or vitamin, only 15% goes into the body and rest is flushed out. So I crush mine, tastes bloody horrible and I don't do anything with milk cept cream for coffee and tea.

I have too much genetic problems that will never change, thank goodness am not like a bubble boy. I am actually now allergic to fish, anything from the ocean, do eat fresh water fish but most of that now is from fish farms, but someone has developed fresh water lobster.

Thank you all for your posts, very appreciated.
More...

You forgot Hemrhoids from your career as a Truck Driver.

John9999 · May 16, 2018

Wow. This thread went on numerous different directions. So I guess I’ll have to chime in on the whole supplement discussion. If you want your mom blown look up the inquiry that was done by New York State Attorney General a few years ago. They found that was said to be in the products is not true at all or just trace elements. He was pushing to have the supplement industry regulated under the FDA rather than the cosmetics industry standards.
If that ever happens you can say goodbye to the entire supplement industry. Basically they’re just selling garbage

userque · May 16, 2018

Jdesey said:
I think I have just about had it with figuring this whole thing out. I have had success, had failure, but basically just gotten nowhere after years and years of solid effort.

There are these services such as "collective 2" where you can subscribe and get a traders trades. All kinds of strategies, futures, stocks, options, etc.. this is different from a internet "room" which I have done in the past.

I would not do the automated thing, I still want to push the buttons and be involved.

Can anyone relate to the frustration? Anyone out there gone the route to take trades from a service?
More...

It's not your fault. Rarely does anyone receive an on-point answer.

wrbtrader · May 16, 2018

I'm curious...

Why do almost every doctor recommend to women that are pregnant to take Folic Acid "supplement" ?

Why do almost every doctor recommend to their patients that are "anemic" via iron deficiency to take Iron "supplement"...in some cases...higher dosage is "prescribed medicine". In the latter situations...blood tests are then used to determine how effective the iron supplements are and then the prescription is adjusted until the anemia is gone along with adjustments in the nutrition. ?

Both above have supporting data going back 20 years that show the VO2max levels improved in the blood in comparison to the placebo groups in the same study.

Anyways, you willing to take a chance on the life of the baby and tell your girlfriend, wife, sister or friend to NOT take those recommended supplements by their doctor when pregnant ???

Risking possible birth defects like Spinal Bifida in the unborn child.

My ex-spouse didn't believe in supplements but when she was pregnant with both of our children...she did everything the doctor told her to do including taking the Folic Acid supplements until her 12 weeks of pregnancy as instructed.

After birth of our children (healthy kids)...she's back to believing supplements are useless and she then had her tubes tied.

Regardless, I don't recommend supplements unless its being "prescribed" or "recommended" by a doctor that understands your test results along with being recommended with changes in the nutrition.

Thus, supplements for other reasons when tests show you have no defieciency...supplements not needed when such can be accomplish via dietary (nutrition).

wrbtrader

Cswim63 · May 19, 2018

Jdesey said:
I think I have just about had it with figuring this whole thing out. I have had success, had failure, but basically just gotten nowhere after years and years of solid effort.

There are these services such as "collective 2" where you can subscribe and get a traders trades. All kinds of strategies, futures, stocks, options, etc.. this is different from a internet "room" which I have done in the past.

I would not do the automated thing, I still want to push the buttons and be involved.

Can anyone relate to the frustration? Anyone out there gone the route to take trades from a service?
More...

You might want to stop trading. You're just going to project current issues. The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. You need to get honest with yourself. Don't trade, enjoy your life first. Your initial resistance to this statement might be a starting point for change.