Just wondering when does a trader become a gambler?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Cabin111, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. [Partial QUOTE="Overnight, post: 4640990, member: 494466"]Traders do not have to be...they have so much flexibility it boggles the mind. The only way to mitigate risk in gambling is to never play the game...Traders can be in the game and mitigate the risk with many many means.[/QUOTE]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    %% Great quote, that's why i quoted it LOL:D:D
     
    #41     Apr 16, 2018
  2. Cabin111,

    Most of the gambler traders I know behave that way. They have a few day of winning and keep talking/bragging about it and when have losing days they act like the world coming to an end and start changing everything and blaming everything. They talk like this: "I got stopped out because they want it to go low today". "They sellers have the market today, that's why I got I stopped out" "This market is crazy today" "Thanks alot Trump" "I am not trading today with all this stuff going on in Syria today"

    Most gambler traders don't realize how probability statistics and risk works.
     
    #42     Apr 16, 2018
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  3. %%
    Lottery players;
    a stupid tax on those that cant do math.:caution::caution:
     
    #43     Apr 16, 2018
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  4. You just said it, holds it until he dies. Read more on Mr Buffett, he actually sells covered calls and put options. You know that is also a lifecycle. Analyze what happens before and after ex-dividend date.
     
    #44     Apr 16, 2018
  5. ET180

    ET180

    Yeah, it's possible and probably common for one to not learn from his or her mistakes and keep doubling down on a flawed strategy, but that does not describe all traders. However, your definition of gambling covers basically all professions in the medical and legal fields.
     
    #45     Apr 17, 2018
  6. JSOP

    JSOP

    I think what OP's asking is irrelevant. At the end of the day, what counts is whether one can sustainably profitable in the long run, throughout their whole life, the whole life of their descendants of x generations down and etc. etc. Does it really matter whether one is a trader or a gambler? There are traders who have made the motherload and then crashed and burned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Lauriston_Livermore and then there are "gamblers" who make money sustainably and is living the life of every guy's dream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bilzerian.

    You are only as good as your next trade/bet.
     
    #46     Apr 17, 2018
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  7. https://www.casinopedia.org/terms/p/professional-gambler
    "
    A professional gambler is a person who makes their living entirely or mainly through gambling. Professional gamblers take a realistic living wage from their play, and often make a lot more on top of this. They use legal gambling methods and often employ legal betting systems to maximise their earnings, and they are able to manage wins and losses in order to achieve a profit.

    Professional Gamblers may also be able to gain an advantage by having superior knowledge, or a knack for placing the right bets, at the right levels.
    "
    Winners traders are professional gamblers.
     
    #47     Apr 17, 2018
  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    Care to explain that?
     
    #48     Apr 18, 2018
  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    You are a gambler if you keep playing knowing the odds are not in your favor. You are not a gambler if you keep playing knowing the odds are in your favor and you will eventually come out ahead.
     
    #49     Apr 18, 2018
  10. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    there is no no guarantee that one live or still be in business when the odds, which are in ones favor, will eventually played out... therefore it is gambling

    we are all gamblers as long as there are odds involved.... and no guarantees... :)

    the only guarantee is that we will all die.... no gambling here :)
     
    #50     Apr 18, 2018
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