Just remember 2008, everything was fine

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by NY_HOOD, Dec 24, 2018.

  1. #11     Dec 24, 2018
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  2. Peter Schiff has been saying the same thing for 80 years.
     
    #12     Dec 24, 2018
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  3. maxinger

    maxinger

    Just remember 2008, everything was horrible !
    Many people were retrenched !
    Only traders survived.
     
    #13     Dec 24, 2018
  4. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    Citigroup in 2007 and the CEO ...Prinze? were not doing too well writing down 700 millions in bad mortgage loans. names and numbers are from memory so... August? 2007 quants washed out....credit markets ...reverse repo markets...libor strained/flashed warnings.
    The fed and stock indices and were in denial but were not happy-go-lucky .

    The expected one year of fiscal stimulus from tax cut is done and there is less global monetary stimulus. c banks are quiet and its time for Schumer to tell them to "get busy" again. Trump may scapegoat and fire the fed hair when Abby J. Cohen calls a bottom . surreal.

    Where are euro and Japan 10 year yields? -neg? How do you ease into that? Sorry dont follow the stuff.
     
    #14     Dec 24, 2018
  5. In the last two recessions (2001-2002, late 2007-2008), I remembered there were lot of confusions about whether US was in a recession, as there were lots of conflicting news. Often the GDB showed positive growths, only to be revised down several months later, first to slightly positive, then to negative. And sometimes the news media was wondering why the markets were falling even though the fundamental seemed OK.
     
    #15     Dec 24, 2018
  6. JSOP

    JSOP

    Everything IS fine. What are you talking about? :)
     
    #16     Dec 25, 2018
  7. Maybe. The point is he was ridiculed when pointing out deficiencies in the American economy and stock market by so called experts saying everything was completely fine.
     
    #17     Dec 25, 2018
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    2001 was mild because it was really localized to dotcom and the after effects of 9/11 and then accounting scandals which were really just a financial issue.

    In the Great Recession, Main Street got hit in 2009. I saw a slide at a chemical industry conference that showed production was down 9percent in early 2009. 9percent for one of the largest manufacturing industries in America! As a derivatives trader sitting in a large bank (not sure if our firm would survive) this was lost on my until several years later. The world actually stopped spinning.

    The first is called the dotcom bust and the second is called the Great Recession for a reason.
     
    #18     Dec 25, 2018
  9. Well said. You've had many people forecasting doom and gloom since the bull market began...mostly these dumb ass gold bugs. 10 years later, these guys are going to act as if they had it right all along and that anyone who thought that the economy was fine had it wrong.

    While I'm not a doom and gloomer, I don't think that the economy has been going in the right direction, either.
     
    #19     Dec 25, 2018
  10. Yeah, Schiff just so happened to be the broken clock who was right at that time. 2008 was his twice a day
     
    #20     Dec 25, 2018