Just a flu bro...literally

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Daxtrader, Apr 18, 2020.

  1. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    The moment the federal government utters the word "emergency" your civil "rights" and your property "rights" amount to exactly jack.

    We just saw what happened over what essentially was a small scale event. Grocery stores emptied for no compelling reason. Lone hikers and surfers arrested. People prevented from accessing their cabins and vacation homes. Mask police. Economic chaos for millions.

    Imagine what would ensue in an *actual* emergency. Nobody is laughing at the preppers now.

    In engineering to test something, physically or mathematically, we hit it with a hammer and look at what happens. Its called an impulse response and it gives you the transfer function of what you hit with the hammer telling you everything about it.

    The hammer has hit the object and what is clear is that our system is very very fragile. Any real calamity would make our system fail big time. Its not the disaster that kills you its the crazy reaction of millions of irrational people around you that is scary.
     
    #171     Apr 22, 2020
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  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    TRUTH. And we're watching that exact thing play out right now.
     
    #172     Apr 22, 2020
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  3. jem

    jem

    #173     Apr 22, 2020
  4. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    I found this on twitter. Not sure if it is accurate. If it is accurate, it looks like covid-19 cures heart disease, cancer, Alzheimers, etc.

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    #174     Apr 22, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I found no graph or data in the NY Times death rate articles that resemble this. I question the source of this graph.
     
    #175     Apr 22, 2020
  6. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Okay, it very well could be incorrect. I will look later for numbers to validate/invalidate it.
     
    #176     Apr 22, 2020
  7. Also is one all of 2019 and the other year to date?
     
    #177     Apr 22, 2020
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Now you bring up due process. This is the extension of your claim to a "Right to Employment." They closed many businesses at Ground Zero when there was asbestos floating in the air. Are you saying they violated everyone's rights? Perhaps. But was it necessary to promote safety? To clean up the area. To ensure no one got hurt if other buildings collapses? Don't they mandate hurricane evacuations? Is that a violation of your rights?

    It ABSOLUTELY matters why they are closing places of business. All those above reasons are justifiable for restricting travel and/or employment.

    As I said earlier, this viewpoint is an obfuscation of the real question: should we sacrifice lives in favor of GDP? You are trying to make a moral argument rather than a practical one. Its clear you favor the GDP and are trying to justify the potentially 10,000's of deaths or more on philosophical grounds.

    Btw - speaking of rights, remember when you said that it was okay if homeless people were denied the right to vote if voter id laws couldn't account for their situation?
     
    #178     Apr 22, 2020
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  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I have little doubt the thing I, father in law, friend, his father in law got last Christmas was a cousin of covid 19 but not as contagious. If not it is a hell of a coincidence. Never been to 104 with the flu and my friend was 104.5.

    Father in law not sure but he had the AC on at max for two days.
     
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    #179     Apr 22, 2020
  10. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

     
    #180     Apr 22, 2020
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