Jury Duty

flytiger · Feb 21, 2007

Try what this guy tried at our Army induction during the Vietnam war. He crapped on the First Sargeant's desk.

Then, it'll be us trying to get out of Jury Duty when your case comes up.

William Rennick · Feb 22, 2007

Quote from Surdo:

Throw it in the garbage, you won't be asked for another 6 months, that works about 3 or 4 times.
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LOL

Matt24SPFL · Feb 22, 2007

Quote from BSAM:

Here's the best way, IMO. Go on down, then when the lawyers start talking to you, just strongly state your opinion. Your opinion will match one side or the other. You are certain to be struck from the jury panel.

Like if it's a car accident case, if you believe in no fault insurance, tell them. If it's a capital murder case and you don't believe in the death penalty, let them know. If it's a theft case tell them "everybody" has stolen something in their life. They don't want to hear these things.

Lawyers can't handle these type of answers. They want people who are easily manipulated and who are not independent thinkers. If you represent yourself in such a way as to let them know that your opinions will not be swayed, there's no way they want you on the jury. I mean, one side will, but not the other one.
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Money!!

newtoet · Feb 22, 2007

Quote from Hydroblunt:

Gee, that's funny. Maybe they should try paying smth reasonable for the time they take up. I dunno, some people actually have to work and support families. You know, some people actually would like to do jury duty if it was not such a financial stress. Who wants to risk getting stuck for weeks, getting paid $10 a day? Even if you make 6 figs a year, some people actually have financial obligations on that level already.
If they paid a reasonable rate, they would have no problem with getting a diverse jury duty or people constantly trying to get off jury duty. But hey, they would rather spend that money on paying idiot judges and fighting the War on Drugs & War on Terrorism.

Civic duty, f**k that sh*t. I know people who actually had problem paying the rent by being chosen for jury duty. Yeah, apprently your bills & your landlord don't care about the civic duty, neither do your children's needs.

Use the terms "jury nullification", ask the judge what that is and you'll be excused. State that you believe that cops are liars and trained as such (it's true). If it's a civil trial, just have bias toward the incident. Dunno bout playing the racist card, it won't fly in NYC anymore.

They might let you off on financial hardship but only if there are enough ppl who say they don't experience it or their employers pay their time on jury duty.

Oh yeah, if you trade at the office, you can ask your group leader or whatever write a letter that states that you are needed to be there and cannot miss days cause you handle client capital or some sh*t. Make up smth about possibly losing an account if you are not there.
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It's people like you who make this country a great place.

JangoFolly · Feb 22, 2007

Quote from Hydroblunt:

Gee, that's funny. Maybe they should try paying smth reasonable for the time they take up. I dunno, some people actually have to work and support families. You know, some people actually would like to do jury duty if it was not such a financial stress. Who wants to risk getting stuck for weeks, getting paid $10 a day? Even if you make 6 figs a year, some people actually have financial obligations on that level already.
If they paid a reasonable rate, they would have no problem with getting a diverse jury duty or people constantly trying to get off jury duty. But hey, they would rather spend that money on paying idiot judges and fighting the War on Drugs & War on Terrorism.

Civic duty, f**k that sh*t. I know people who actually had problem paying the rent by being chosen for jury duty. Yeah, apprently your bills & your landlord don't care about the civic duty, neither do your children's needs.

Use the terms "jury nullification", ask the judge what that is and you'll be excused. State that you believe that cops are liars and trained as such (it's true). If it's a civil trial, just have bias toward the incident. Dunno bout playing the racist card, it won't fly in NYC anymore.

They might let you off on financial hardship but only if there are enough ppl who say they don't experience it or their employers pay their time on jury duty.

Oh yeah, if you trade at the office, you can ask your group leader or whatever write a letter that states that you are needed to be there and cannot miss days cause you handle client capital or some sh*t. Make up smth about possibly losing an account if you are not there.
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You're exactly right, Hydro. I'm an individual trader and also have a computer programming business, but I'm the only person involved in both operations. I wouldn't mind giving a day or two to jury duty, but it's the possibility of getting stuck for a week or more which would make a serious dent in my income and compromise my ability to meet project deadlines. I have a wife and two kids, and I already pay a boatload in income, property, and sales taxes, so I don't feel like eating into my personal savings for the indefinite benefit of the county.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

TheDecider · Feb 22, 2007

Quote from JangoFolly:

I just got called up. Any thoughts/advice for getting excused?

Thanks.
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Racial remarks.

I got called to serve and the case involved an illegal from Mexico stabbing someone.

When they questioned me the first thing I asked was "is this guy a legal immigrant?"

The attorney said "that is not relevant to this case"

My retort was "Yes it is. You can correct me if i`m wrong but wouldnt that make him guilty of breaking the law already?"

DONE....please go home we will call you in 5 years.

JangoFolly · Feb 22, 2007

Moderator,

Sincere thanks to you for your consideration and for relocating this thread to the Career Trader forum.

Regards,

candletrader · Feb 22, 2007

I agree fully with BSAM... make yourself totally unacceptable to one side... choose, by your comments, to be on the side of the criminal -- so you don't get followed home...

If you adopt the above approach, you will be struck from the jury panel VERY quickly... just make sure that you make yourself heard, so that they kick you off the panel...

Quote from BSAM:

Here's the best way, IMO. Go on down, then when the lawyers start talking to you, just strongly state your opinion. Your opinion will match one side or the other. You are certain to be struck from the jury panel.

Like if it's a car accident case, if you believe in no fault insurance, tell them. If it's a capital murder case and you don't believe in the death penalty, let them know. If it's a theft case tell them "everybody" has stolen something in their life. They don't want to hear these things.

Lawyers can't handle these type of answers. They want people who are easily manipulated and who are not independent thinkers. If you represent yourself in such a way as to let them know that your opinions will not be swayed, there's no way they want you on the jury. I mean, one side will, but not the other one.
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Surdo · Feb 22, 2007

Quote from newtoet:

Here is an idea - go serve. It is your civic duty.
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I served!

What a waste of time.

I would rather donate my time to a soup kitchen asshole.

stevegee58 · Feb 22, 2007

Quote from JangoFolly:

I just got called up for jury duty. I am a professional trader and I was curious how other professional traders have handled this particular obstacle to earning a living. Any thoughts/advice for getting excused?

Thanks.
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If you're an engineer, make sure they know. Lawyers absolutely *hate* engineers. They think and analyze way too much. Lawyers just looooooove housewives, and others who are more swayed by emotional arguments.

(I'm currently in a ducked position so-as to avoid the inevitable thrown frying pan.)