Julian Assange: Hero or Villain?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Rearden Metal, Nov 29, 2010.

Julian Assange: Hero or Villain?

  1. Clearly a hero (I am a U.S. Citizen)

    28 vote(s)
    42.4%
  2. Probably more hero than villain (I am a U.S. Citizen)

    11 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. Not sure (I am a U.S. Citizen)

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  4. Probably more villain than hero (I am a U.S. Citizen)

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  5. Clearly a villain (I am a U.S. Citizen)

    9 vote(s)
    13.6%
  6. Clearly a hero (I am NOT a U.S. Citizen)

    8 vote(s)
    12.1%
  7. Probably more hero than villain (I am NOT a U.S. Citizen)

    4 vote(s)
    6.1%
  8. Not sure (I am NOT a U.S. Citizen)

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  9. Probably more villain than hero (I am NOT a U.S. Citizen)

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  10. Clearly a villain (I am NOT a U.S. Citizen)

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  1. I don't think he's a hero or villain.

    Just a douche bag.
     
    #41     Nov 30, 2010

  2. I'm not sure why you would think that ANY other country isn't also doing it already - just not leaked yet in the same way.
     
    #42     Nov 30, 2010
  3. Also, for all you that think this guy is some sort of hero and are American citizens, I don't think you're thinking clearly.

    If you started a successful company and somebody came in
    and stole all your trade secrets and corporate communications and
    decided to give it away to all your competitors would they be a hero?
     
    #43     Nov 30, 2010
  4. sgt. bradley manning who stole at least some of the cables for Wikileaks says the security was totally lacking. i presume he did not get paid for the info. he probably did it because of his beliefs.

    i bet there are hundreds of people with the same level of access to this type of info who would be tempted to steal it for a small compensation in cash. i bet 10x or 100x secret info has been bought by the Russians and the Chinese in just the last few years.

    What the public sees on Wikileaks is just the tip of the iceberg of the secrets that must have been compromised.
     
    #44     Nov 30, 2010
  5. do you think its useful for the american people to know that while they are spending 3 billion a week fighting in afgan supporting a corrupt administration things like this are going?

    "The leaked State Department documents reveal that in addition to the unflattering assessments of President Hamid Karzai and his cabinet, Afghanistan's Vice President Ahmad Zia Massoud was once caught traveling through Dubai with $52 million in cash. Massoud "was ultimately allowed to keep without revealing the money's origin or destination."
     
    #45     Nov 30, 2010
  6. We have a process for getting sensitive information disseminated, if you don't like the process, vote out your congressman and try to get the rules changed.

    A smash and grab of americas control room is not in your best
    interest.
     
    #46     Nov 30, 2010
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Agree.
     
    #47     Nov 30, 2010
  8. Hilary Clinton stands up and apologizes for the release of the documents, but not what was said/written in the documents.

    rather telling, imo
     
    #48     Nov 30, 2010
  9. Gimme a break with that line of shit. The reason why this Assange even remotely had a platform to disseminate the volumes of damaging data is because of the lack of transparency with which this government has operated for decades.

    The idea that there is some type of "process" whereby the bought and bribed representatives will suddenly have a moment of enlightenment is ridiculously naive.

    On the other hand, I'm still not convinced that the leaking of these documents wasn't a backdoor means of drawing support against actions towards Iran. A clever sort of means of showing purportedly classified communications between a whole host of nations denouncing the actions of a "rogue" nation.
     
    #49     Nov 30, 2010
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I saw a clip of her doing that yesterday.

    Damn she looks old.
     
    #50     Nov 30, 2010