Judge Jury & Executioner

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Humpy, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    I'm just pointing out that pucrum is wrong. Go ahead and spin for your buddy.

    The Keynesian "equivalent" is realizing you can't afford your mortgage because of a loss of income, so you spend money on, eg., a haircut, a suit, night school, and some interview coaching, so you can get a better paying work.
     
    #21     Sep 11, 2013
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Then you're confused on the analogy. Either way, you incorrectly applied the parable to what I was inferring.
     
    #22     Sep 11, 2013
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    But at the end of the day, people have been predicting the end of America for nearly two centuries. You're merely a newcomer.
     
    #23     Sep 11, 2013
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Perhaps, but you'd have to take out a loan to spend on the suit, night school, etc...it would require more debt taking on, as the country is already spending money it does not possess.

    The right choice would not have been purchasing a house you could not afford in the first place.

    And Lucrum had nothing to do with my original comment, so I'm not sure what "buddy spinning" you're referring to.
     
    #24     Sep 11, 2013
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I haven't. As you say, I just recently got on that train, so putting me in the doomsday group isn't entirely accurate. I'm pointing to some massive changes on the horizon to the way this country operates. And prior to the 2006 time frame, I was a grasshopper like you.
     
    #25     Sep 11, 2013
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    With so many on ignore, rectum is frequently out of the loop.
     
    #26     Sep 11, 2013
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Yes it would be more debt, but if your odds of getting a better paying job are as good as the odds that Americans are going to get up tomorrow, work, and pay taxes, then that debt will get paid.
     
    #27     Sep 11, 2013
  8. Are you one ignorant fu%^er or what? Nearly the entire US Senate and House approved going to the ME to f%^k up Afghanistan. They won't admit it now, the Democrats on the whole don't want that bit of history in our thinking I'm sure. They might lose the anti-war vote!
     
    #28     Sep 11, 2013
  9. Bankrupt implies a financial situation where one's liabilities are in excess of one's assets and ability to finance debt service on those liabilities.

    All of the US's liabilities are denoted in dollars, for which the Treasury has a printing press. The ability to service debt, by monetizing it if necessary, is unquestioned. Furthermore, a simplistic cash flow analysis ignores the vast assets carried off balance sheet by the government. Land, minerals, etc are worth trillions.

    Moreover, the congress can eliminate a huge swath of liabilities with a vote by repealing entitlement programs or other expenditures.
     
    #29     Sep 11, 2013
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    All of these are true. The US can print/devalue it's way out of debt, at massive cost to their citizens. Or they could change legislation to fix a lot of it.

    But in absence of either of those options, the US does indeed have more liabilities than they are capable of paying back. Said in another fashion, they are bankrupt.
     
    #30     Sep 11, 2013