Judge Halts New York City Soda Ban

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nutmeg, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. WTF was he thinking ? I'm sure NY has bigger problems then soft drinks
     
    #11     Mar 11, 2013
  2. All the big problems are already illegal. Basically, lawmakers are running out of things to outlaw.
     
    #12     Mar 11, 2013
  3. pspr

    pspr

    That's what all New Yorker's look like. They think they are voting for family.
     
    #13     Mar 11, 2013
  4. wjk

    wjk

    Bloomberg's attempts at nanny-statism are a sample of what is coming our way. Wait till the gov completely controls healthcare. When the costs get out of control, so will the attempts at controlling every aspect of everyone's life they deem necessary to control those costs. It will be on a much larger scale than a city or two banning big sodas and salt. I think Michelle has been working on that regarding school lunches.
     
    #14     Mar 11, 2013
  5. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    I fail to comprehend what's wrong with trying to prevent people from becoming a part of the 2/3 of the US who are overweight and/or obese. Do you guys comprehend that these very people are the ones who cost us the MOST as far as healthcare costs? And many of them are poorly educated, live in poverty, on SNAP and other government programs. And then there are all the others ... from middle class to upper class who are just fat pigs. Healthcare costs are out of control for many reasons but one of the biggest is personal choice by those who are intent on either shortening their lives or killing themselves. Eating as many do is no different than a smoker who abuses his/her body or someone who drinks to excess. And any/every fat person should pay higher insurance premiums ... they're higher risk due to choices they make through poor diet, no exercise, etc. Should be no different than poor drivers who pay more due to their decisions.
     
    #15     Mar 12, 2013
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Wrong method imo. Taxing the drinks and putting the money into the city/states healthcare makes more sense to me. Banning big cups means people will buy two smaller cups.
     
    #16     Mar 12, 2013
  7. Anyone suppose we should re think physical education programs? Ever see an ad on tv for an apple? Who's bright idea was it to put softdrinks and snack vending machines in schools?

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    Kids get free breakfast in school. This is how that plays out. Kids eat breakfast at home and once more at school.

    The walk between classes, this counts as physical education. Gym class is a joke...liability reasons. Our school built an indoor pool after 20 some years of trying to get it funded. Guess what, the pool is not available to all classes, and all grades. Why? there's not enough time to walk over to the building the pool is in.

    Co - ed gym classes are a failure. Girls are too self consious, don't want to mess up their hair, male coaches are present. Everyone has ashtma, allegergic to bee stings, can't go outside.

    My daughters favorite sport is volley ball. This is how it plays out (her words). We served the ball, it hits the ground. No one moves. Serve the ball, it hits the ground, again. no one plays, everyone thinks it's funny. This all boils down to zero disipline, coaches can't yell at anybody, everyone thinks everything is funny.

    So yea, let's outlaw 20 oz soft drinks. doesn't matter everyone drinks red bull and monster.

    Young people, the only place they can get a job is fast food. What the hell.....what do you think these kids do when they work with food....EAT. Eat when they go to work, eat on breaks, eat when they get off work.

    Ask a kid, any kid "What is the longest you ever went without eating?" "What was the longest you went without ever putting anything in your mouth?" The answer won't surprise you.

    Well I suppose outlawing bake sales to raise money fought the good fight for obeisty, now kids just stand infront of wall mart and beg for spare change.
     
    #17     Mar 12, 2013
  8. On the evening of April 8, 1999, a long line of Town Cars and taxis pulled up to the Minneapolis headquarters of Pillsbury and discharged 11 men who controlled America’s largest food companies. Nestlé was in attendance, as were Kraft and Nabisco, General Mills and Procter & Gamble, Coca-Cola and Mars. Rivals any other day, the C.E.O.’s and company presidents had come together for a rare, private meeting. On the agenda was one item: the emerging obesity epidemic and how to deal with it. While the atmosphere was cordial, the men assembled were hardly friends. Their stature was defined by their skill in fighting one another for what they called “stomach share” — the amount of digestive space that any one company’s brand can grab from the competition.


    James Behnke, a 55-year-old executive at Pillsbury, greeted the men as they arrived. He was anxious but also hopeful about the plan that he and a few other food-company executives had devised to engage the C.E.O.’s on America’s growing weight problem. “We were very concerned, and rightfully so, that obesity was becoming a major issue,” Behnke recalled. “People were starting to talk about sugar taxes, and there was a lot of pressure on food companies.” Getting the company chiefs in the same room to talk about anything, much less a sensitive issue like this, was a tricky business, so Behnke and his fellow organizers had scripted the meeting carefully, honing the message to its barest essentials.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/m...science-of-junk-food.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
     
    #18     Mar 12, 2013
  9. wjk

    wjk

    The second half of your statement deals with the problem you indicate in the first half. If you are referring to the problem of those who won't change their behavior and can't pay higher premuims, I would ask how you would deal with that. Education for those who need it, or forced behavior for everyone because of the risky behavior of some?
     
    #19     Mar 12, 2013
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Violation of personal freedom and liberty?

    Just make the fatsos pay higher insurance premiums. If they can't afford it then no insurance for their fat asses. They die with little or no undue financial burden on the rest of us.
     
    #20     Mar 12, 2013