JPM desperate to defend losing position on CDIs

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by atticus, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. sle

    sle

    I would imagine he's not so fat anymore...
     
    #41     May 11, 2012
  2. trying this again, my 'first post' never showed up.

    earlier, as news was breaking, bloomberg was showing a ticker saying something about >$1B of the potential loses being tied to volatility. anyone know how this would work with the instruments involved? i'm assuming higher vol. = quickening/steepening loses, but i'm sure it's not as simple as this.

    would the other side of this london whale's trades know what levels of vol. might cause him to break?

    thanks

    --pfl
     
    #42     May 11, 2012
  3. these French aint that dumb, they prob took the other side of the trade in another account.

    see ya on the Riviera!
     
    #43     May 11, 2012
  4. I am hearing that they stood to earn only $300-$330MM in yearly premium from the swaps. Nice call Drew, Dimon and Co.
     
    #44     May 11, 2012
  5. Banjo

    Banjo

    You are right then, a degenerate gambler. WTF puts a risk profile like that on.
     
    #45     May 11, 2012
  6. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-11/jpmorgan-loses-2-billion-as-mistakes-trounce-hedges.html

    I think JPM will get out of it OK...
     
    #46     May 11, 2012
  7. Didn't know of Drew's position in CDI? Which is worse, ignorance or incompetence? Almost as bad at O'Neill and Purcell.
     
    #47     May 11, 2012
  8. Crispy

    Crispy

    Risk reward and hedge have no definition in Dimon land.

    If they are putting a 2-3bn number on this thing you know its like 13-20.

    Hearing they were 25-50% of the mkt...so whats the notional on that? LOL....

    How you say, SMOKED?!?!
     
    #48     May 11, 2012
  9. Crispy

    Crispy

    They will survive but by the end of it you wont recognize them.
     
    #49     May 11, 2012
  10. Yeah, if they had reported a $300MM gain you can be assured there would be no mention of ROC, just how incredibly fcuking smart they were. Dimon Principle. Tool.
     
    #50     May 11, 2012