Joseph Brooks adopted son of Al Brooks

Discussion in 'Trading' started by tony.m, Nov 1, 2024.

  1. That's not a Brooks thing. He (probably) just takes a couple hundred pages to explain it.
     
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  2. Good Evening Probability,

    I can respect your comments. However, I disagree with you and @SteveH

    For me, I refuse to learn trading from someone who is not clicking the charts like I am with real money. I regret investing my time, energy, effort, passion and patience for 2 years studying Al Brooks. I completed wasted my time.

    Al Brooks has no idea how to make money trading and I refuse to learn from anyone who is not in the trenches with me clicking everyday with real money, energy and stress to make money. He knows absolutely nothing about trading.

    I rather work with another trader who is not making money but putting in the effort to make money daily, then spend time with Al Brooks and all that theory bullshit.

    I am not sure why so many traders defend this type of stuff. But, I guess some people like wasting their time and energy and fake traders.

    This guy is a Fraudster and other traders defend him and he has no track record of making money, and selling courses on how to trade. I do not know where you guys are from, but this BS to me. To bad I was naïve years ago to think someone who does not make money trade can teach me how to make money traders with all these long boring books 200 hours of video courses.

    There is a BIG difference between making money in trading and learning trading.

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  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    There is something very strange and disarming about Al Brooks Wikipedia entry. Here is an excerpt with my own emphasis added.

    "...He received his MD degree from the University of Chicago and has written dozens of scientific papers on eye diseases and eye surgery. He taught eye surgery at Emory University before opening a practice in Los Angeles, and in Los Angeles, was on the clinical faculty of UCLA.

    He worked in business for thirty years before studying medicine. Finally, he decided to leave ophthalmology and continue working in business. "

    One has to assume that Brooks himself has reviewed this entry for errors and most likely had a hand in providing the information in it. There is something very strange here about studying medicine after 30 years in business. Unless his business career started when he was a teenager, or grade schooler, he would have been approaching almost 60 years of age when he finished his medical training. Furthermore, if he is an author of "dozens of scientific papers" in ophthalmology he would have authored or co-authored at minimum 24 papers in the Journal literature.

    I did a search using NIH PubMed, which picks up papers from Medline and from Index Medicus going back to 1951, looking for any papers by "Brooks A." and also for "Al Brooks". I did turn up a few papers by a Brooks, A. but nothing at all having to do with ophthalmology! Quite surprising, as the Wiki article claims he was "teaching" in an academic clinical setting at Emory University Medical School. It would be unusual for someone teaching eye surgery at Emory not to have published a single article in the primary literature!

    It is my personal opinion, going by what is written in the Wiki blurb, that the trader known to us as Al Brooks is likely a fraud. His unusual advanced age at which he began an academic medical career and seeming absence of papers in the medical literature he claims to have authored raise serious questions about his veracity.

    If I may permit myself an unkind remark, I observe that his inability to write plain English is not a common characteristic of Americans who have post-graduate degrees from U.S. Academic Institutions. His writing ability seems characteristic of someone whose academic studies were terminated at a young age. Perhaps he has only a grade or high school education at best, which could explain his lack of writing skill . His writing seems to have improved somewhat from his earliest book, but is this the result of having engaged skilled editors? Nothing wrong with that of course. What's wrong is releasing for public sale an unreadable and, obviously, a very poorly edited manuscript. John Wiley, which once was a highly regarded publisher of technical books, is clearly responsible for letting such a mess come out under their name. That's unforgivable. It also seems as though Wiley must not have done due diligence in checking into their author's background. They seemed to have acted more as a vanity publisher in bringing out Brook's first book.
     
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  4. themickey

    themickey

    My 2c, trading is a very time consuming business and intraday trading more so.
    Who has the time for; writing books, creating videos, lecturing, running seminars, researching, perhaps coding and trading all at the same time?
    I don't know if he's married, but there's also running a house and cooking meals to consider.
     
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  5. Good post. Quite an eye-opener.
     
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  6. That’s definitely not right: it should obviously say “after,” not “before”. ;)

    It’s now more than 30 years since he retired from medicine/surgery.

    I started trading over 25 years ago, and at that time Brooks was already retired as a surgeon in California, having previously been a professor of ophthalmology while also working as an eye surgeon in another state. As I explained above, I researched him in some detail, at the time.

    That was in the late 1990s, when he was an already-retired medical professor and surgeon, and then in his 40s - so he certainly didn’t “work in business for thirty years before studying medicine”! :rolleyes: :D
     
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  7. Okay, but where are the many papers he reportedly published in the field of ophthalmology? And, as piezoe pointed out, you would think that someone who published scientific papers would have learned to write well and with clarity, especially since I imagine English is his first language.
     
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  8. It's the warrior's mind, and everyone has their own war paint they put on when they fire up the console every morning.

    Yours is a pack of female lions devouring a defenseless hog, or peace loving zebra.

    Mine is the furious tabby, frizzled and frightened, with only one mode of protection: the mighty swipe with an open claw, right to the face!
     
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  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Does not compute. How old is Brooks? I did a search and came up with zippo - strange.

    Doogie Houser MD was a fictional Hollywood sitcom.

    30 years retired from his day job.

    7+ years at least of medical school/interning -

    Education

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      University of ChicagoUniversity of Chicago
      Doctor of Medicine (MD), Medical School, Residency in Ophthalmology, Eye surgeryDoctor of Medicine (MD), Medical School, Residency in Ophthalmology, Eye surgery 1974 - 1981

    As a physician, he published 30 scientific papers and built one of the first Medicare approved eye surgery centers in California. He taught at Emery University, UCLA, and Hollywood Presbyterian Hospital (now, part of USC's training program).

    Guy sure gets around. :confused:

    Meantime, likely another 10 years practicing/teaching.

    Then

    Experience


    • President
      Brooks Price Action, LLC Oct 1987 - Present · 37 yrs 2 mos Sacramento, California Area


    Makes the man at least 85, if not 90. Is he? Seems he is bashful/vain what his exact age is.
     
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  10. I think he's about 72, maybe 73 now? Something like that.

    The Wikipedia thing is obviously ridiculous: as explained above, clearly it should say "after," not "before". Then it all makes sense.



    Sorry, I don’t know - I’m simply commenting on my own personal experience, here.

    I did a lot of due diligence at the time, though, because as I explained on the previous page, I was determined not to invest my time, energy and effort into the work of someone whose income was vendor income rather than trading income.

    I think that was the right thing for me to do. I also think it generally is for others, too, because so very often it’s exactly the other way around!



    Yes - I agree that that’s surprising, even if you allow for surgeons not being the most literate people in a medical school.

    As you and I discussed recently in another thread, Brooks’ first book is a horror and a nightmare, terribly badly written and not professionally edited at all. We agree completely about that. I think that even Brooks himself doesn’t much disagree with it, either, with hindsight. :wtf: :D
     
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