John Paulson having another bad year

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by hughb, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. hughb


    and it may get worse here pretty soon. The deadline for redemption notifications is October 31.;_ylv=3

    From the article:

  2. hughb


  3. Read "Fooled By Randomness" or an introductory book on statistics.
  4. newwurldmn


    He's a good portfolio manager.

    Before he was big he was doing very well as a risk arb guy. He had amassed a personal fortune of 100MM running a few hundred million dollar fund. So he must have been putting up consistent returns for many years.

    He hit the lottery ticket and the next year is expected to run a 20 Billion dollar fund. How's he going to do that? He's used to running a 400MM fund.
  5. Pekelo


    Fun fact: Trade your own money differently than your fund:

    "His flagship fund, Paulson Advantage Fund, was down over 40% as of September 2011. During that same time, Paulson had invested most of his personal fortune in gold and it had grown by $3.1 billion from September 2010 to September 2011."
  6. Not true

    He had a 25 billion dollar + fund in 2009 and 2010 after his huge returns in 2007 and 2008 and still beat the market. So no, it had nothing to do with size.
  7. Also wrong, he has gold class for all of his funds versus the dollar class which he promotes and advocates to his clients. He has been pushing gold to all of his clients since 2009. He doesnt trade differently.
  8. Pekelo


    So? Obviously there was a "slight" difference between the fund's and his private performances, so that gold position must have been minuscule in the fund.

    In short, your point is irrelevant... But if he had a decent % of gold position that just means that the rest sucked even more than -40%....

    There you go, his clients actually reject his advice for gold and want him to cut the position.

    Paulson is the largest holder of GLD shares, so no its not minuscule

    Its obvious he is looking forward 3-4 years and is willing to take a hit in the short term
    #10     Oct 26, 2012