In fairness, sticking to facts is just a different kind of insanity It literally triggers me whenever someone pushes bullshit, regardless of the political lean. This said, I have been hearing lately that math/data has a liberal bias (to the point that someone told me that Bertrands ballot theorem was "bad math") . It's gently over, if you believe the data and I, personally, have no reason to think the data is wrong. The discussion should be about what kinds of conclusions are we going to make based on this data and what policy decisions are we going to make based on these conclusions. Ah, now are finally talking. The real question that we need to ponder is how proportional is the response to this pandemic. I am not gonna pretend to have the right answer because it's a complex decision. However, I definitely feel that some of these responses should have changed as we discovered more about the nature of enemy and who the vulnerable population is. Unfortunately, the policy decision boils down to asymmetric costs to the decision stakeholders. In the current state, policymakers and decision-makers want to err on the side of caution at the cost of long-term consequences.
On Friday nights in the 50’s I remember sitting on the floor by my Dad’s chair watching Friday Night Fights. The boxers entered the ring, listened to the ref’s instructions and proceeded to spar and technically score as high as possible. Sometimes it was very obvious who was the better fighter, other times I am sure it was difficult for the judges to decide the winner. But one thing always stood out. At the end of the bout, the two fighters touched gloves and nodded in respect of each other’s diligent efforts without maligning or disparaging the other. I remember as a thin, scrawny kid looking up in absolute awe to theses mens’ skills, strengths, blows taken and sportsmanship carried despite the pain. I wanted nothing more that to be like them. Humble in victory, gracious in defeat and both realizing how fortunate they were to be part of the bigger game together. I wonder why today’s young men find little to be inspired about.
There is a parallel to this... market condition. Covid or no covid. Bull market or bear market. Some are permanent bull and some are permanent bear. Just remember once soak in the bull market in a long time, we are conditioned into it. Bear market is just round the corner.
All the excess deaths can be blamed on covid complications of fat fucks, diabetics, people with preexisting conditions. Still they would be alive without covid. Simple as that.
Diabetic isn't a major factor like it's said to be, it's a lung condition so its only really COPD, Coke users, heavy smokers, asthmatics people with bad lung function. 90% of deaths where people which where terminal, they might of held on longer, Flu might of finished them off over the winter, which is why less Flu deaths currently are low and the covid deaths compensating bringing us back to average. As I've said shield the at risk, let it burn out quickly, sadly they slowed the spread down enough still around when they dropped the shielders to early.
90% were terminal. That is some stuff pulled straight from your ass or out of the ass of one of your conspiracy brethren.
Well we are all terminal, so not really, but no 90% of the UK Covid deaths had atleast 1 life threatening condition and average age 85 most where old as dirt. The other 10% likely had a health issue without realising, or they died in a car crash while testing positive in the last 28days. There putting as many deaths as they can down to Covid Related, ONS Study 6weeks back only 15K where proper covid deaths. Friends work for care homes, I know of loads of deaths and they've put them down as Covid and the staff are saying it's BS, just normal OAP deaths.
Thanks at least for admitting that your earlier comments where taken out of thin air. The rest is yada yada yada. I have friends, I know some people, I heard, I watched reports. Any circumstantial or empirical evidence is completely flawed as the number observations you heard or know of are miniscule compared to statistically meaningful sample size. Truth is deaths are up by a lot over prior years. You can't deny nor explain that away.
So Yada Yada, your a PC brain washed lefties who's believed all the the fearmongering media and think we are all doomed, yada yada. Although the deaths are 8% over 5 year average, there high of range not even above high of range, so actually it's a pretty typical bad year, not above, nothing compared to spanish flu, that year went crazy on the deaths / population scale. Ended up being a nothing, not that you'll accept that. 2nd / Shielders wave is pretty much over, peak was 3 or 4 weeks ago infection wise, hospital admission dropping nicely, hospitals emptying aswell, deaths will come down soon. https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/ Check out the excel sheet daily admissions. Peaked before lockdowns would of kicked in, 2 weeks before yet again. How many of my friends / family / work mates / or any of there parents have died, hmmmm ZERO that's right ZERO, how many are jobless and poor 460 at last count.
It's a slap in the face to those who truly suffers in China's Cultural Revolution to compare their very real deaths by the millions and incalculable suffering to the "suffering" of an asshole who can no longer tell gay jokes to people with gay family members without them telling him he's an asshole. The only thing that's happened in the U.S. in the past decade that even begins to resemble the Cultural Revolution are the Patriot Act renewal and Trump's attempt to ban Twitter from pointing out when he lies, and those are but faint echos of the horrors of the actual Cultural Revolution. Which, by the way, came about as the result of a civil war, not "Actions by those in positions of govt and media power" in a still (despite Trump's best efforts) functioning democracy.