John Carter - Hubert Senters - tradethemarkets.com SCAMS?

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by observer75, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. EPrado

    EPrado


    We do trade, we just don't do the trades we tell you. That's priceless.


    They should be posting their "live calls" somewhat in advance. That would eliminate the front running thing. I remember reading that the clowns from puretick would put on a position, give out the signal, then sell into their clients buying.

    I see no reason why they can't say "We are looking to get long the russell at 851" as it begins to trend towards there. The only problem would be if there guys all put in buy stops at 851....could cause for some slippage. If that's the case they should have their guys trading something like ES, where slippage will never be a problem.
     
    #131     Jul 19, 2011
  2. LeeD

    LeeD

    See, for example, this story about a TV presenter who on the air recommended to buy stocks some of which he owned. Pay attention to the severity of the punishment for a person who dropped a few company names in a TV bradcast.

    http://economicsnewspaper.com/polic...arkus-frick-sentenced-to-probation-13711.html

    There was a similar case with a British radio presenter a few years back but I can't seem to find the story now.
     
    #132     Jul 19, 2011
  3. LeeD

    LeeD

    Apparently, under cetain circumstances doing the same trade as recommended to readers/viewers/listeners is considered a crime on its own. (See my reply to marketsurfer above.)
    I am not a legal expert in the area. However, given the severity of the prospective punishment I guess the online "gurus" think it's better to be safe than sorry. Exchange-held stop orders are executed in the order they have been submitted, same as limit orders. So, gaining a position in the order queue in front of the readers is likely to be considered a form of front-running again.
     
    #134     Jul 19, 2011
  4. 4 u englis majers


    "Watch Rob's setups and execute live trades in a REAL account. "

    This does not say he trades a real account. It says YOU can execute in a real account while watching Robb pull his pud.


    Anyone that pays clowns like this DESERVES to lose it all.

    problem is, after they piss their money away, they go on food stamps and YOU support them.
     
    #135     Jul 19, 2011
  5. Interesting, thanks Lee.
     
    #136     Jul 19, 2011

  6. Someone shouldo out these guys if it is indeed a scam. I really don't care, but I know some of you do.

    Their name is uncannily close to trading markets. Wonder if that is deliberate?
     
    #137     Jul 19, 2011
  7. JackR

    JackR

    777:
    Are you familiar with the acronym - RTFQ?
    It seems to fit to your misleading interpretation of the TTM web site - Perhaps you missed this sentence:
    The reason for this is simple. Rob is a real trader and he only trades his real LIVE account, no demos or simulated trades.

    Not defending Hoffman, he screwed up. But you did as well. However, your mistake didn't cost you $300,000+.
    Jack
     
    #138     Jul 19, 2011
  8. Can you read English. That quote I gave is designed to weasel out of any claim of realtime/real $ trading.

    If its just really bad grammar then they should fix it. After they fix his account.


    The room is officially open Monday thru Friday from 8:15 am to 12:00 pm ET.

    wtf is that?
     
    #139     Jul 19, 2011
  9. I don't support the misstatements either. Regardless, does rob provide any proof that he is indeed trading live? Shouldn't be too hard to prove.

    Thanks
    Surf
     
    #140     Jul 19, 2011