John Carter - Hubert Senters - tradethemarkets.com SCAMS?

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by observer75, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Normally a regular snake oil salesman that just lose a bit on the market, nothing meaningful, says on its website he can provide track records to attract new clients, but fail to produce it on actual demand. If these guys are putting this on their website, they must be loser of epic proportions...
     
    #101     Jul 19, 2011
  2. EPrado

    EPrado


    Who knows if he was even really trading a real account. He claims he is, but the fact that he can't show any kind of statements leads me to believe he might be on a simulator. A lot of these scam firms show an order book on their videos....but it's a demo.

    I don't watch the russell futures, but at the time he imploded there had to be some kind of quick downturn as his brokers puked out his position. If not...well...then there's your answer. He isn't trading live.
     
    #102     Jul 19, 2011
  3. EPrado

    EPrado


    I couldn't agree more. They are basically saying :

    "We are not in the trading biz to make trading profits, but we will show you how to make profits....even though we don't know how to make profits".
     
    #103     Jul 19, 2011
  4. Is this another Fran$ Sho@r in the works???
     
    #104     Jul 19, 2011
  5. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    The same thought crossed my mind as well. Wasn't his strategy called Bull's Eye or something like this :D
     
    #105     Jul 19, 2011
  6. Exactly, plus trading 100's of contracts on a simulator. Wonder what happened to him?

    Ever see the John Carter music video? He has a potentiaL career in music spoofs anyway.--- the weird al of trading music videos. :D
     
    #106     Jul 19, 2011
  7. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

    Hoffman blew up his account in front of hundreds of paid subscribers. He has claimed over and over again that he is trading his own real money.

    If he were faking it 1) He would go to jail for fraud and set himself up for civil lawsuits. 2) Why would he let his account blow up like that and lose a bunch of subscribers?

    Hoffman apparently has a lot of clout with Infinity Trading. I doubt they would want to associate themselves with someone who was fake-trading hundreds of contracts on their simulator.

    I'm not sure how Infinity flushes a position but I was going through the volume and there are plenty of places where it could have accommodated that size of a position. If anyone knows the exact time of the flush I can see precisely if there was that level of volume.
     
    #107     Jul 19, 2011
  8. time and sales would put all the speculation to rest.
     
    #108     Jul 19, 2011
  9. Let me just say however, that this entire episode has left a bad taste in my mouth with regards to Trade the Markets and Hoffman. I've always felt that it was a scary way to trade and getting flushed seems like the only end game, at least the way that Hoffman trades.

    I like Trade the Markets, but I don't know why they are using Hoffman's methods as a way to teach newbies. I don't quite think John Carter and Hubert are scammers, but Hoffman has a lot to answer for IMHO. If I were John Carter and Hubert I would ask myself if asociating with this trading style is what they really want.
     
    #109     Jul 19, 2011
  10. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Not necessarily, as long it is said somewhere in small print that all results are hypothetical, no legal issue. Franz did not have any after he was exposed, and if I remember correctly he just moved on and set up new website to continue "coaching".
     
    #110     Jul 19, 2011