Joe Wilson spoke truth to power

Discussion in 'Politics' started by drjekyllus, Nov 30, 2009.


    Health bills fail to block illegals from coverage

    By Stephen Dinan

    Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants could receive health care coverage from their employers under the bills winding their way through Congress, despite President Obama's explicit pledge that illegal immigrants would not benefit.

    The House bill mandates, and the Senate bill strongly encourages, businesses to extend health care coverage to all employees. But the bills do not have exemptions to screen out illegal immigrants, who usually obtain jobs by using false identities and are indistinguishable from legal workers.

    A rough estimate by the Center for Immigration Studies suggests that the practical effect of the mandates would be that about 1 million illegal immigrants could obtain health insurance coverage through their employers.

    Democrats who wrote the House bill said that employer coverage for illegal immigrants is not intentional, but rather the outcome of people breaking the law.

    "It's possible an employee could deceive an employer with a fraudulent document, just as under current law, to gain employment, just as it's possible for all sorts of criminal activity to occur, and why we have law enforcement," said Nadeam Elshami, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, who wrote the final House bill.

    Republicans said that loopholes in the bill could allow coverage to just about any illegal immigrant who wants to cheat the system.

    "This is a complete cover-all-the-gaps federal health insurance for illegals, whether it be under Medicaid, the refundable tax credit or whether it be under their employers who would not be able to verify their employers unless we fix E-Verify," said Rep. Steve King of Iowa, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee's immigration subcommittee.

    How to deal with immigrants, both legal and illegal, remains one of the thorniest issues in the health care debate. In his address to a joint session of Congress in September, Mr. Obama specifically challenged Republicans who said his plans would extend coverage to illegal immigrants.

    "This, too, is false -- the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally," Mr. Obama said.

    That statement elicited an outburst of "You lie" from Rep. Joe Wilson, South Carolina Republican.

    Joe Wilson said more with 2 words than BHO has said in all his speeches and books combined.
  2. True DR-J;
    but he also rightly did apologise for inturrupting Pres Barack,- thats rude.

    He did tell the truth;
    so we have to respect him for that.:cool:

    They need to let insurance companys sell across state lines , get tort reform, but then keep/kick the federal gov out of health care:D

    Enjoy your tea/coffee:p DR-J.
  3. Saw Judge Andrew Napolitano discussing this a few months back. Bottom Line... Illegals WILL get health care under Obamacare (no way to exclude them, in fact)... Obama KNOWS they will... Obama LIED when he said they would not...

    Joe Wilson was correct when he said of Obama, "YOU LIE"... (which applies to so many things Obama has said..)
  4. Man the liberals on this board are pretty mum about this. They must be busy discussing "Hope" and "Change".
  5. Maybe he's not lying. Maybe he's planning to turn the illegals into citizens, before ObamaCare, thus giving a double dose of F'you to republicans. :D