Job with Morgan Stanley???

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by lasner, Mar 24, 2006.

  1. lasner


    Hi I have a question for you guys. I'm interested in becoming a pro trader for a firm. I've been trading for a couple of years. Mainly on practice accounts for the first couple of years. The last six months I've shown a solid return by turning $3000 into $22000, I did this through writing options way outside of the money.

    I just got hired with Morgan Stanley as a "wealth advisor" I don't really want to do it. The only reason I'm taking the job is because I'm hoping for a shot as a trader.

    My question is this do you think I could go from a weatlh advisor to a trader with Morgan Stanley?

    Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
  2. Truff


    What exactly is a wealth advisor?
  3. He is a seller of value added services to the MS client base.

    a telemarketer of stocks. So he will cold call MS clients and push "strategies" or help them "review their accounts".

    BTW, no chance at trader job. This is a sales job.
  4. lasner


    So you think there's no chance of me breaking into trading from being a wealth advisor, even with a good track record.
  5. i doubt you can go from sales to a trader unless you apply for it once you're inside and know the people. You can make a lot of money doing what you're doing at MS though.

    I have a friend who works for Prebon (Collin Stewart Tullett) in Singapore but she told me they're hiring globally for traders. If you're interested, go to their careers page

    Just a thought.
  6. Honestly, I doubt it. I believe you will be sent on training to learn to sell products. That's about it.

    Have they mentioned training? What about a commission structure for selling? If "selling" comes up too much, then that's what the job is.
  7. just21


    How do you turn $3k into $22k selling options? How far are you out of the money?
  8. Evidently not that far out of the money. No one can earn a 1,200% annual return selling premium.
  9. just21


    A return of 633.3% every six months. What do you need a job for?
  10. Places like Morgan Stanley do not want traders selling naked options who come in through the sales route as a wealth advisor. Especially with the risk you took on to make that money.

    If MS has a trading desk for options, then starting there as a clerk or gopher is the only way you can do it as an entry person. Wealth Advisors receive no trading training at all, you receive SALES training. The Series 7 exam you take for the position is as close to trading info as you will get.

    Not speaking from personal experience, but from 3 friends who went that route hoping to get into trading. I really felt for those guys because they just did not want to see the handwriting on the wall.
    #10     Mar 24, 2006