Job report, unmployment falls to 9.5%!

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Ivanovich, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. :D That's funny! But the arrogance of the current administration trying that shit is a bit unsettling.
     
    #11     Jul 2, 2010
  2. Really? It looked like your point was to take whatever numbers were provided and rip on how they we're going to be spun....
     
    #12     Jul 2, 2010
  3. Trying? It seems like the current administration just plain doesn't give a shit about creating jobs. As long as there is something in the ether they can point to and tell people they are doing something it doesn't matter to them.
     
    #13     Jul 2, 2010
  4. Too bad the average Obama voter is so clueless that they will gullibly fall for anything he spews...
     
    #14     Jul 2, 2010
  5. Yeah, duh! And why would I rip on them? Because they aren't accurate! The methodology is crap and they're all BS.

    For crying out loud, next time I'm make the original comment in a pop-up book for easy reading.
     
    #15     Jul 2, 2010
  6. nickdes

    nickdes

    I think most people do not believe the 9.5!!!!! I sure don't...in fact I believe little from this socialist tyrant we have in office now, obama!!!
     
    #16     Jul 2, 2010
  7. achilles28

    achilles28

    Does the BLS subtract the previous months birth-death estimate from the current month, so as not to double count?

    For instance, last month, the birth-death estimate was ~250,000 jobs. So in order not to double count, the BLS would have to subtract that estimate from this months numbers, or those birth-death jobs estimated last month, would get captured by this months survey, as they are now "mature" jobs. Hence a double count.

    Good post, btw. These numbers are totally cooked.
     
    #17     Jul 2, 2010
  8. achilles28

    achilles28

    You got to be kidding...
     
    #18     Jul 2, 2010
  9. I am not sure. I can look into it later, but it is my understanding that the Birth/Death model does not count the previous month, as each month's "birth/death" are for that month only, and therefore has nothing to do with previous months.
     
    #19     Jul 2, 2010
  10. achilles28

    achilles28

    I need to check into it myself... From what I know, the birth-death is just an estimation of jobs created in that month by new business starts or dissolutions that are undetectable because they haven't registered with the IRS and filed payroll taxes. But after 1-2 months, new business would be registered with the IRS and file payroll taxes, hence, would be available for capture in the NFP survey. So, in order not to double count, after 1 or 2 months, old birth-death estimates must be subtracted from the current NFP because those old "estimates" would now get captured by the current months survey = double count.

    I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of it.
     
    #20     Jul 2, 2010