Jesse Livermore

Discussion in 'Trading' started by a529612, Jun 12, 2006.

  1. nealvan

    nealvan

    He's a homerun hitter and giving him money at the right time is like puting in a homerun hitter as pinch hitter in the 9th inning with bases loaded.. Trading in places like bucket shops was much different than todays market but nevertheless the book itself is a great read for anyone who likes the drama of going from rags to riches on these streets of dreams so to speak..

    Obviously the market was much more currupt back then.. When wallstreet started not everyone was allowed to even own stock.. Today anyone with some bucks can trade in the market.. Livermore was a genious of his time..
     
    #41     Jun 14, 2006
  2. Kensho

    Kensho

    #42     Jun 14, 2006
  3. He's not a good trader in my opinion.
    Although he made a large sun of money, he also lost a whole of sum of money and was forced to bankruptcy. his risk management is just abysmal.

    However that isn't the reason we shouldn't learn from him. Learn his good parts. Take out his bad parts. Learn from his mistakes. Don't follow in his footsteps. Then you will be more successful more him.
     
    #43     Jun 14, 2006
  4. This guy makes a billion dollars in 2006 dollars speculating from nothing and you call him a bad trader. LOL. Anyone who makes a billion dollars is a good trader even if he pisses every last cent away on women, homes, gambling, and trading.
     
    #44     Jun 15, 2006
  5. People suffering from clinical depression are far more likely to engage in risky behavior than those with solid mental health.

    While this is pretty self-evident IMO, the fact has also been proven via the scientific method... so it's all a package deal.

    I have a question for those who are knowledgeable about Livermore: Was he ever prescribed heroin or morphine for his depression, as was the common medical practice until the mid 1950's?

    I wonder if he neglected to try the one thing that could have actually make him better.

    My site, on opiates for depression:

    WWW.Prohibition-Kills.com
     
    #45     Jun 15, 2006
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  8. But you miss the point that he also lost "a billion" and went bankrupt SEVERAL TIMES.

    If you read just that part, you may feel he is the worst trader in the world.

    What's the point of having billions if you are going to give back later on?

    Risk & money management is what he suxks.

    There're other trader who are better than him and never run into bankruptcy.
     
    #48     Jun 15, 2006
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  10. fletch2

    fletch2

    Agree 100%. It seems to me the people who are drawn to the Livermore story are the same types who will talk of blowing out accounts as though it were a Purple Heart.

    You see this same phenomenon in advantage gambling circles. Some people are drawn to a kind of fatalism, and admire the guys who make millions playing poker and blow it all sports gambling or making ridiculous high stakes side bets of various kinds. This is kind of behavior is pathological, and is nothing to be admired.

    Fletch
     
    #50     Jun 15, 2006