jasinhbca's quest for discipline, knowledge & profits

Discussion in 'Journals' started by jas_in_hbca, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. Missing trades today. Not sure why. Slightly tired ? IDK. It's a state of mind issue I'm sure.

    Second missed I had an entry order in , cancelled it then couldn't replace it in time. I think I need to remember to keep the internal dialog on: is this a set up, is the context correct ? Accept uncertainty. I'll add that to my pre-trading review notes.

    The 1 trade so far was not very good. Move too extended and close to target / support. Then I messed up my stop by bringing it in too close. I always go in with a 4 pt stop then manually adjust it. In this case I moved it to a 3 pt stop then tightened up more. I wanted it 2 ticks higher but couldn't move it fast enough and got stopped out.

    Short range
    Entry 3611.50
    stop 3614.50
    t 3608-3604

    stopped on poor stop movement -1.50


    waiting for FOMC minutes.... Given my performance so far I may call it a day early.
     
    #781     May 21, 2014
  2. Redneck

    Redneck



    You’ve id a trade signal…. that signal fail – the trade is no longer valid

    The stop should always be placed just the other side the of signal you’re trading

    Placing it any further away – is money being pissed away



    Bigger the loss(es) = the more work we face trying to make it back = more pressure = more potential for stress

    At some point – we may even start focusing on recouping the loss(es) – which means we’re trading our PnL

    This is never good


    Now please don't take the above as meaning we should strive to never have losses - losses are inevitable

    We must continuously work diligently.., to keep each loss as small as is reasonable (this is our primary job)

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    Aside;

    In situations where the trade’s signal is large (such a 1,2,3 reversals) – there will inevitably be an area where price has made / is making

    DT/ DB…, or HL / LH

    Because the horizontal boundary (zone) has been established / is being respected

    Because the move’s direction has been agreed upon – and being supported

    So a breach of the DT / DB…, or HL/ LH would invalidate the trade signal

    Just the other side is where to place the stop


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    Save yourself a bunch of unnecessary BS…. and keep each loss small from the get go

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    As for moving stops after the trade starts working

    I would say – keep your initial stop in place… and improve the trade management piece of each trade plan

    RN
     
    #782     May 21, 2014
  3. Redneck

    Redneck

    The main horizontal zone is off on this chart

    Needs to shift down a bit.., and is too wide

    RN
     
    #783     May 21, 2014


  4. I've never seen anywhere how to draw them so I just eyeball it.

    The bottom of zone is at swing high at 6:40 which is retested at 7:05. The fbo at 7:25 does not have price acceptance so I keep the bottom of zone in place. the top of the zone maybe a few ticks higher to bottom of the retest bar at 7;42 ?

    Or I suppose I could make the low of the current zone the high and make the low at the bottom of the swing at 6:45 ? a picture is worth blah bla.. here's a chart for that second option

    edit: I didn't notice you said shift it down .
     
    #784     May 21, 2014
  5. Redneck

    Redneck

    Sending you and Slugar a PM

    RN
     
    #785     May 21, 2014
  6. Redneck

    Redneck

    Much better

    Also note the chop - just above this zone..., made early in the morning (6:55 am to ~ 7:20 am)


    Does this new zone you made - make sense to your eye?

    RN
     
    #786     May 21, 2014
  7. yep !
     
    #787     May 21, 2014
  8. Redneck

    Redneck


    First…, let’s acknowledge a few things

    Today – PA was rangy as hell (btw this is the nature of the beast given it’s the beginning of summer - it should be this way for the next couple of months - SHTF events notwithstanding)


    You did a great job of staying patient - period

    The area where you enter – isn’t the cleanest PA (but neither is most of the session)

    The BO came right back..., and not only reentered that range – it also breached the DMTL

    What price didn’t break is the DT (see yellow line)

    No matter today was a tough day - and that trade a tough one

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    Great job remaining patient – and accept – today was simply a bitch PA wise

    :)

    RN
     
    #788     May 21, 2014
  9. Redneck

    Redneck

    Good - because your revised context captured what price said... hence it reflects price

    Makes for something we can reliably trade off of

    Btw reliably - does not mean all trades will automatically be winners - they "could" be... but never automatically will they be

    RN
     
    #789     May 21, 2014
  10. I ended up only taking the 1 trade today so -1.50. I tried getting my stop above the yellow line but wasn't quick enough . (I click & drag my stop order placement on the chart and sometimes it's not quite where I want it. I think I can accomplish this through the DOM screen too. Might have to look into it)


     
    #790     May 21, 2014