Japanese vs Americans during a disaster.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by KINGOFSHORTS, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. zdreg

    zdreg

    you are wrong. the black community was afraid of President Bush and behaved properly. with Obama in the White House they might feel any
    kind of behavior is acceptable. It is an unproven supposition. Till a disaster happens you will not know.

    As to white people the riots in Greece during the financial crisis showed a remarkable lack of discipline. It is unclear what to expect of the general US population. if you think about the poorly educated high school and college graduates, lacking in discipline, the prognosis is not favorable.
     
    #51     Mar 15, 2011
  2. terr

    terr

  3. As afraid as they might have been of President Bush, I believe their culture re-enforces a lot of the behavior seen and constitutes it as being 'okay' and a social norm. The majority seems to stem from poor education, like you mentioned, and an extreme lack of parental influence and guidance which appears to be sorely needed. Also true is that it doesn't seem to be improving, maybe this is what the president should focus on instead of trying to make friends with terrorist nations and trying to be hip.
     
    #53     Mar 15, 2011
  4. Racism = Stupid.

    Friendly reminder. :cool:
     
    #54     Mar 15, 2011
  5. hedge123

    hedge123

    Absolutely true. I've lived in the Silicon Valley most of my life, worked in software, manufacturing and finance, and noticed that in these professions what brings people together are education, work ethic, and intelligence. Outside of work, people fall into their respective socio-economic groups, meaning that while there is some spillover from work (i.e. whites and asians stuck together, blacks and hispanics off on their own), by and large people self-select and end up in their respective racial checkboxes.

    It's really diversity by necessity, not choice. In the software businesses I've been in, academics, etc. are emphasized, so you see a lot of whites and asians (especially asians.) In the factory I was briefly at, there were a lot of black and hispanic workers, generally willing to accept lower pay to offset their relative lack of education, etc. The market is filling these jobs - especially in the high tech sector - because the general population is either unwilling or incapable of doing them. So we end up importing labor from China and India in the case of software and electronics, and from Mexico, etc. in the case of manual labor. The blacks sort of end up in government jobs, and the whites all want to be the CEO.

    It's hilarious to watch the die-hard liberals then try to convince us that we're all the same. This argument usually works in school, where the kids don't know any better, but as soon as they get into the working world, where the bottom line actually matters and no one can afford this PC nonsense, their attitudes change real quick.
     
    #55     Mar 15, 2011
  6. hedge123

    hedge123

    Psuedo-equations with no empirical evidence = less than smart, IMHO.
     
    #56     Mar 15, 2011
  7. If you told the typical Japanese person this, he would laugh in your face. I think most Chinese people would too. I strongly suspect most Hispanics and blacks would as well. So far as I can tell, only white people are capable of being this naive.

    It is simple:

    People form coalitions both for defensive (protect your family by joining others) and offensive (join with others to take from others) reasons. People are tribal because individuals working as a team tend to dominate those who do not.

    Race in a homogeneous society such as Japan much like an extended family. They might fight among themselves, but to a large degree it is, "them vs. us" when it comes to the rest of the world. They are polite and happy to trade with us as business partners or customers, yet they do not particularly care to see us mucking up their favorite restaurants in their home country.

    When "minority" groups come to the USA, they often form ethnicity-based coalitions and networks in order to "work as a team" to find their place and gain prosperity. However, they have also been very successful at going on the offensive: For example, their activist groups have lobbied such that corporations, government, and universities actively discriminate against white, European males who are not able not able to claim "victim group" status. Whites are subject to laws and special punishments that the government itself says cannot be applied to non-whites.

    In other words, by having no "group identity" whites did not lead others into a brave new world, they merely have been duped into supporting their active displacement and increasing marginalization. This process will continue to so long as it is not met by an equal and opposite force, simple as it is.

    The bottom line is you cannot separate yourself from this dynamic. If you think you are "not apart of it" or "above it" then you (or your children) will become a victim of it. That is the imperfect situation man finds himself in, always has and always will.
     
    #57     Mar 15, 2011
  8. very well said
     
    #58     Mar 15, 2011
  9. Why not? its fun.
     
    #59     Mar 15, 2011
  10. Do you think the average Indian or the Indian moron makes it to the USA? No, they do not. The Indians who make it to the USA are among the most intelligent that exist in a population of what, 1+ billion? To understand India you must go to India, not look at the average Indian-American.
     
    #60     Mar 15, 2011