Japan nuke plant blast may be worse than Chernobyl

Discussion in 'Economics' started by hippie, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. Japanese situation is nothing like Chernobyl.
  2. burn8


    Not even close.

  3. TGregg


    It's a virtual certainty that this will be nothing like Chernobyl, much like Kansas beating their first round team is a virtual certainty.

    However, should the highly improbable come to pass, there are considerations likely to develop. For instance, the disclaimer on Chernobyl was "Yeah sure it was a problem, but it was those crazy communists. They can't do anything right." This concept holds a lot of weight, I mean just look at the Soviets - they were the comic relief of the cold war.

    But if an advanced, nose-to-the-grindstone Oriental culture #*&@s it all up, that's a whole `nother story. It's too early to call and the good guys are still favored, but the tide could turn.
  4. Watching the Nikki now, falling 10% so far. I see huge buy orders coming in.

    A: Media is over hyping this event.
    B: The hype is by idiots who know nothing about NUKE Science let alone Meltdowns.

    C: This is a HUGE buying opportunity, to leg in. Of course some are predicting NIKKI 7000. I doubt that.
  5. A massive earthquake damaging the structural integrity of various nuclear reactors causing multiple explosions at several reactor sites, engineers struggling to contain the problem, firefighters struggling to contain fires at various nuclear sites, a melt down alert has been issued, authorities are evacuating civilians, fuel rods have been exposed, they are pumping sea water into the reactor to prevent a meltdown, Tepco warned it had lost the ability to cool Fukushima Daiichi's reactor 2, the U.S. has moved an aircraft carrier out to sea after detecting low level radiation, radiatiopn has now been detected in Tokyo, the cooling systems are malfunctioning simultaneously at three separate reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, bottom line they are struggling to prevent a melt down ..... a minute from now the situation can be another Chernobyl......why can't it with what has and is occurring?
    I am sure you nuclear engineers posting on this internet forum know exactly what's going on and that there can't possibly be any further problems. Oh wait! None of you are nuclear engineers. Just Idiots.

    Here's the latest, but of course none of this is true, it is all an exaggeration by the media.

    The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power, said late Monday that repeated efforts to inject seawater into the reactor had failed, causing water levels inside the reactor's containment vessel to fall and exposing its fuel rods. After what at first appeared to be a successful bid to refill the vessel, water levels again dwindled, this time to critical levels, exposing the rods almost completely, company executives said. ( Read: Japan's nuclear crisis worsens, tsunami puts economy at risk )

    Workers were having difficulty injecting seawater into the reactor because its vents — necessary to release pressure in the containment vessel by allowing radioactive steam to escape — had stopped working properly, they said.

    The more time that passes with fuel rods uncovered by water and the pressure inside the containment vessel unvented, the greater the risk that the containment vessel will crack or explode, creating a potentially catastrophic release of radioactive material into the atmosphere — an accident that would be by far the worst to confront the nuclear power industry since the explosion of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant 25 years ago.

    In reactor No. 2, which is now the most damaged of the three at the Daiichi plant, at least parts of the fuel rods have been exposed for several hours, which also suggests that some of the fuel has begun to melt. If more of the fuel melts before water can be injected in the vessel, the fuel pellets could burn through the bottom of the containment vessel and radioactive material could pour out that way — often referred to as a full meltdown.

    "They're basically in a full-scale panic" among Japanese power industry managers, said a senior nuclear industry executive late Monday night. The executive is not involved in managing the response to the reactors' difficulties but has many contacts in Japan. "They're in total disarray, they don't know what to do."

    The extreme challenge of managing reactor No. 2 came as officials were still struggling to keep the cores of two other reactors, No. 1 and No. 3, covered with seawater. There was no immediate indication that either of those two reactors had experienced a crisis as serious as that at No. 2.

    But part of the outer structure housing reactor No. 3 exploded earlier on Monday, as did the structure surrounding reactor No. 1 on Saturday. Live footage on public broadcaster NHK showed the skeletal remains of the reactor building and thick smoke rising from the building. Eleven people had been injured in the blast, one seriously, officials said.

    Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said earlier Monday that the release of large amounts of radiation as a result of the explosion was unlikely. But traces of radiation could be released into the atmosphere, and about 500 people who remained within a 12-mile radius were ordered temporarily to take cover indoors, he said.

    Mr. Edano and other senior officials did not immediately address the threat of radioactive release from reactor No. 2.

    The country's nuclear power watchdog said readings taken soon after the explosion showed no big change in radiation levels around the plant or any damage to the steel containment vessel, which protects the radioactive material in the reactor.

    "I have received reports that the containment vessel is sound," Mr. Edano said. "I understand that there is little possibility that radioactive materials are being released in large amounts."

    In screenings, higher-than-normal levels of radiation have been detected from at least 22 people evacuated from near the plant, the nuclear safety watchdog said, but it is not clear if the doses they received were dangerous.

    Technicians had been scrambling most of Sunday to fix a mechanical failure that left the reactor far more vulnerable to explosions.

    The two reactors where the explosions occurred are both presumed to have already suffered partial meltdowns — a dangerous situation that, if unchecked, could lead to a full meltdown.

  6. Because the reactor has been shut down for three days now.
  7. That is meaningless. You have nuclear fission and a nuclear reaction. You can still have a meltdown if you can't adequately cool down. And That is the problem they are struggling with. A different type of situation technically than Chernobyl but that is irrelevant. A meltdown and Escaping radiation is not good either way.

    It is a very precarious dangerous situation to say the least.

    If you were exposed to radiation in a Chernobyl type event/meltdown or the type of meltdown that could occur here would it matter that the cause was technically different?

  8. The fact that it is technically different is exactly what is relevant. Running around like a headless chicken and screaming "radiation" tells us nothing at all.
  9. If you were exposed to radiation in a Chernobyl type event/meltdown or the type of meltdown that could occur here would it matter that the cause was technically different?

    Yeah I get it. You think the media is exaggerating things for ratings. You've got issues with the media. If you don't believe the facts as they are being presented by the media, That there are ongoing explosions at a nuclear power plant. If you think that it is all a lie or being exaggerated by the media or not a serious situation that can't worsen....well, Sorry but I just can't help you with any personal issues you may have against the various media outlets reporting the story.

    There are ongoing explosions(think about it for a minute, maybe the light will go on) at various nuclear power plants.....nah.....no problems here. Lol

    #10     Mar 15, 2011