January 6th - It's Seditious Conspiracy charge time

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 13, 2022.

  1. #41     Jan 17, 2022
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    #42     Jan 20, 2022
  3. Cuddles

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    The former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the House select committee investigating the Capitol attack that Donald Trump hosted secret meetings in the White House residence in days before 6 January, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

    The former senior Trump aide also told House investigators that the details of whether Trump actually intended to march to the Capitol after his speech at the Ellipse rally would be memorialized in documents provided to the US Secret Service, the sources said.

    The select committee’s interview with Grisham, who was Melania Trump’s chief of staff when she resigned on 6 January, was more significant than expected, the sources said, giving the panel new details about the Trump White House and what the former US president was doing before the Capitol attack.

    Grisham gave House investigators an overview of the chaotic final weeks in the Trump White House in the days leading up to the Capitol attack, recalling how the former president held off-the-books meetings in the White House residence, the sources said.

    The secret meetings were apparently known by only a small number of aides, the sources said. Grisham recounted that they were mostly scheduled by Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and that the former chief usher, Timothy Harleth, would wave participants upstairs, the sources said.

    Harleth, the former director of rooms at the Trump International Hotel before moving with the Trumps to the White House in 2017, was once one of the former first family’s most trusted employees, according to a top former White House aide to Melania Trump.

    But after Harleth sought to ingratiate himself with the Biden transition team after Trump’s defeat in the 2020 election in order to keep his White House role, Trump and Meadows moved to fire him before Melania Trump stepped in to keep him until Biden’s inauguration.

    Grisham told the select committee she was not sure who exactly Trump met with in the White House residence, but provided Harleth’s name and the identities of other Trump aides in the usher’s office who might know of the meetings, the sources said.

    The Guardian previously reported that Trump made several phone calls from the Yellow Oval Room and elsewhere in the White House residence to lieutenants at the Willard hotel in Washington the night before the Capitol attack, telling them to stop Joe Biden’s certification.

    Trump increasingly retreated to the White House residence to conduct work as his presidency progressed, according to another former Trump administration official, as he felt less watched by West Wing aides than in the Oval Office.

    Towards the end of his presidency, the former Trump administration official said, an aide to former White House adviser Peter Navarro tried at least once to quietly usher into the residence Sidney Powell, a lawyer pushing lies about election fraud, to speak with Trump.

    A spokesperson for the select committee declined to comment on Grisham’s interview that took place the first week of January. Harleth did not respond to questions about the meetings in the White House residence when reached last week by phone.

    Over the course of her hours-long interview, Grisham told House investigators that the mystery surrounding Trump’s promise at the Ellipse rally that he would march with his supporters to the Capitol might be resolved in Trump White House documents, the sources said.

    The former president’s purported intention to go to the Capitol has emerged as a crucial issue for the select committee, as they examine whether Trump oversaw a criminal conspiracy coordinating his political plan to stop Biden’s certification with the insurrection.

    Trump’s promise is significant as it served as one of the primary motivations for his supporters to march to the Capitol alongside militia groups like the Oath Keepers, and was used by far-right activists like Alex Jones to encourage the crowd along the route.

    But Trump never went to the Capitol and instead returned to the White House, where he watched the attack unfold on television – after being informed by the Secret Service before the insurrection that they could not guarantee his security if he marched to the Capitol.

    The select committee is now trying to untangle whether Trump made a promise that he perhaps had no intention of honoring because he hoped to incite an insurrection that stopped the certification – his only remaining play to get a second term – one of the sources said.

    Grisham told the select committee that Trump’s intentions – and whether the Secret Service had been told Trump had decided not to march to the Capitol – should be reflected in the presidential line-by-line, the document that outlines the president’s movements, the sources said.

    The chairman of the select committee, Bennie Thompson, has told reporters the panel is already seeking information from the Secret Service about what plans they had for Trump on January 6, as well as what evacuation strategies they had for then-vice president Mike Pence.

    But the presidential line-by-line, which gets sent to the Secret Service, could also reveal discussions about security concerns and suggest a new line of inquiry into why an assessment about conditions that were too dangerous for the president were not disseminated further.

    Grisham also told the select committee about the necessary coordination between the Trump White House, the Secret Service and organizers of the “Save America” rally at the Ellipse on 6 January in order to ensure Trump’s appearance, the sources said.

    The former Trump aide suggested to the select committee that Trump was determined to speak at the rally once he heard about its existence, the sources said, and was constantly on the phone to oversee the event’s optics, the sources said.
     
    #43     Jan 20, 2022
  4. Mercor

    Mercor

    The secret meetings were apparently known by only a small number of aides

    What does secret mean....it wasn't live streamed??
    What an insidious statement
     
    #44     Jan 20, 2022
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    Ricter

    What does scheme mean, it's a conspiracy? Insidious indeed.
     
    #45     Jan 20, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

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    'Looming question' of Trump indictment for seditious conspiracy after last week's revelations: legal expert
    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-sedition-2656462449/

    In an interview with the Guardian, Kimberley Wehle, a professor of law at the University of Baltimore, claimed that the investigation of Donald Trump and his connection to the events of Jan 6th appears to be ramping up and now there is the "looming question" over whether he will be charged with sedition.

    With the Guardian's Richard Luscombe writing, "No single week in the year since Trump left the White House has been as dramatic, or for him as potentially catastrophic, as the one just passed," he added that there is a belief that a criminal indictment is "one step closer."

    According to Wehle, revelations of a plan to seize swing-state voting machines with an assist from the military is making the job of the House committee investigating the Capitol riot easier.

    “He’s Teflon Don, he said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and survive it, his supporters are going to support him no matter what, but I’m starting to think more and more that the walls are closing in on this guy,” she explained before adding, "The looming question is whether Trump will be indicted along with 11 others so far for seditious conspiracy [over the 6 January Capitol attack]. To me that’s the biggest turn of events … the justice department believes they have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt of an agreement, a meeting of minds to overturn a legitimate election."

    The law professor went further and predicted, "And that there are a lot of high-level people that are looped into it, including potentially Donald Trump himself, and of course he’s not president, so he’s not immune from prosecution anymore.”

    According to Wehle, the Georgia investigation into Trump's meddling with the election results also looks like a strong case.

    “The most immediate thing is the grand jury in Georgia because there’s audio of him trying to get [secretary of state] Brad Raffensperger to ‘find’ votes. Under Georgia election laws as I read them that is potentially a crime," she explained.
     
    #46     Jan 24, 2022
  7. This is why these articles are such fluffy shit, especially when someone claims to be a legal expert and it ends up being someone from a law school....not even ranked in top 100 in U.S.....

     
    #47     Jan 24, 2022
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #48     Jan 28, 2022
  9. Everything Trump touches withers and dies......

    Fake Trump electors have ‘absolute criminal liability’ and will cooperate to save themselves:

    Fourteen fake Trump electors who were subpoenaed Friday as part of the House's Jan .6 probe are facing "absolute criminal liability," according to one former federal prosecutor.

    Asked whether the fake electors themselves could also face criminal liability, Goldman responded, "Absolutely."

    "They were a part of this, particularly the ones who knew that the document they signed was going to be fraudulently certified and sent to Congress," Goldman said. "They knew that was a forgery. They knew that was bogus. ... And so there is absolutely criminal liability, and what I think you will see is, all of these electors running as fast they can to meet with the Department of Justice to cooperate to get themselves out of trouble, and go up the food chain about people who were directing them, and as we know by now, that's how investigations work."


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    Yet he shamelessly continues to enrich himself off them.

    Trump charges $100K per couple for Texas fundraiser
    The fundraisers are for Trump's political action committee called "MAGA Again!"

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    Former President Donald Trump is charging couples $100,000 to attend a private luncheon with him just ahead of his scheduled rally in Conroe, Texas, this coming Saturday, the Houston Chronicle reports.

    Following the luncheon will be a private reception where couples pay $5,000 to attend, but the price shoots up to around $50,000 for attendees to participate in a round-table discussion and have a photo opportunity with Trump.

    The fundraisers are for Trump's political action committee called "MAGA Again!"
     
    #49     Jan 28, 2022
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    NRA board member subpoenaed by Jan. 6 committee over role in fake Trump elector scheme
    The Jan. 6 committee on Friday targeted 14 people accused of submitting falsified Electoral College paperwork
    https://www.salon.com/2022/01/28/nr...6-committee-over-role-in-fake-elector-scheme/

    The latest round of subpoenas issued by the Jan. 6 committee targeted 14 people accused of submitting falsified Electoral College paperwork across seven states — part of an ultimately unsuccessful attempt to subvert 2020 election results and have former President Donald Trump declared the victor in states won by current President Joe Biden.

    "The select committee is seeking information about attempts in multiple states to overturn the results of the 2020 election, including the planning and coordination of efforts to send false slates of electors to the National Archives," the committee's chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said in a statement. "We believe the individuals we have subpoenaed today have information about how these so-called alternate electors met and who was behind that scheme."

    According to The New York Times, the 14 people subpoenaed were: "Nancy Cottle and Loraine B. Pellegrino of Arizona; David Shafer and Shawn Still of Georgia; Kathy Berden and Mayra Rodriguez of Michigan; Jewll Powdrell and Deborah W. Maestas of New Mexico; Michael J. McDonald and James DeGraffenreid of Nevada; Bill Bachenberg and Lisa Patton of Pennsylvania; and Andrew Hitt and Kelly Ruh of Wisconsin."

    One name in particular sticks out from the list — Bill Bachenberg, who has been on the National Rifle Association's Board of Directors since 2005, according to his LinkedIn page and leaked 2018 election results viewed by Salon. Bachenberg did not immediately return a request for comment.

    Bachenberg has a documented history with TrumpWorld — he reportedly hosted Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., at a skeet shooting range he owns in Pennsylvania, and served as co-chair of an official campaign group called Sportsmen for Trump.

    He also went viral during the 2020 presidential campaign for laughing along with audience members while speaking at an official Trump fundraiser as they suggested shooting Texas Democrat Beto O'Rourke, who campaigned for his party's 2020 nomination with a strong stance on gun control.

    The NRA's unusually large board of directors — according to an investigation from Mother Jones in 2013 there were upwards of 76 members elected via a "hush-hush" process — has come under increasing scrutiny in recent years. One board member, Roscoe "Rocky" Marshall, alleged in a lawsuit last year that the board acted as a "rubber stamp" for longtime NRA leader Wayne LaPierre and resisted calls for independent probes into his misuse of organizational funds.

    Another director's name was found on the leaked membership rolls of right-wing militia group the Oath Keepers, who saw 11 members and its longtime leader, Stewart Rhodes, charged with seditious conspiracy earlier this month for their role in the attempted Jan. 6 insurrection.

    RELATED: National Archives: Trump allies caught using forged documents to overturn 2020 election

    Given this history, a representative for prominent gun control group Everytown for Gun Safety said the revelation that an NRA board member may have been involved in efforts to subvert the 2020 election "both deeply concerning and unsurprising."

    "For decades the NRA has peddled the conspiracy theories and lies that fuel the far-right, so it's both deeply concerning and unsurprising that one of their board members is believed to be connected to efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election," Justin Wagner, senior director of investigations for the nonprofit, said. "The kind of fear mongering and lies the gun lobby has spread have been the underpinnings for the resurgence of the far-right in recent years, and the dangerous policies the gun lobby pushes allow extremists to arm themselves."

    At least one former White House aide, Boris Epshteyn, admitted to organizing the fake elector campaign on national TV last week, telling MSNBC, "Yes, I was part of the process to make sure there were alternate electors" — though he insisted that "everything that was done was done legally."

    Multiple reports also suggested that former Trump attorney Rudy Guiliani oversaw the efforts — a revelation that means Trump's inner circle was at least aware of the potentially illegal effort.

    Attorneys General in at least two states have already referred investigations to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution — an effort that legal experts predict is likely to expand in the coming weeks.

    Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, a Democrat who has been especially critical of the plot, has said she believes the people who participated in the plot violated both state and federal laws through their efforts.
     
    #50     Jan 29, 2022