JACK HERSHEY METHOD EXPOSED AS FRAUD! *Debated*

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by bwolinsky, Dec 13, 2008.

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  1. :confused: :confused: :confused:
    More like, BWOLINSKY on Jack Hershey's Method. Or is that over the top?:D
     
    #251     Dec 17, 2008
  2. Maybe the stochastics are off.
     
    #252     Dec 17, 2008
  3. Beau, not sure I understand your motive for sharing a code that you've worked extensively on that COULD make you a lot of money? I understand trying to prove or disprove J Hershey but to share all your hard work freely seems, well, not bright.

    Unless of course you aren't sharing it all but then what would be the point of sharing any of it?

     
    #253     Dec 17, 2008
  4. Hey BW, what is this tested on? 5 minute ES data? thnx
     
    #254     Dec 17, 2008
  5. 15 minute .SPX data.
     
    #255     Dec 17, 2008
  6. So, you guys were definitely doubters that I could convert the .SPX data into a tradeable system, but I did just that, and here it is on SDS and SSO at 100% of equity. Looks nice and juicy to me, and I don't see much evidence of slippage here, assuming a 0.01 per share of slippage and commission.
    Long + Short
    Starting Capital $147,000.00
    Ending Capital $315,167.88
    Net Profit $168,167.88
    Net Profit % 114.40%
    Annualized Gain % 781.36%
    Exposure 12.41%

    Cash Interest $2,117.45
    Margin Loan Interest ($1.92)
    Total Commission ($1,918.32)
    DividendsPaid $0.00

    Number of Trades 21
    Avg Profit/Loss $8,007.99
    Avg Profit/Loss % 3.75%
    Avg Bars Held 16

    Winning Trades 20
    Winning % 95.24%
    Gross Profit $175,451.28
    Avg Profit $8,772.56
    Avg Profit % 4.25%
    Avg Bars Held 14.85
    Max Consecutive 18

    Losing Trades 1
    Losing % 4.76%
    Gross Loss ($9,398.93)
    Avg Loss ($9,398.93)
    Avg Loss % -6.20%
    Avg Bars Held 39
    Max Consecutive 1

    Max Drawdown ($30,482.64)
    Max Drawdown Date 11/13/2008
    Max Drawdown % -14.41%
    Max Drawdown % Date 10/10/2008

    Wealth-Lab Score 5,387.22
    RAR 6,294.57
    Profit Factor 18.6672
    Recovery Factor 5.5168
    Payoff Ratio 0.6845
    Sharpe Ratio 8.4203
    Ulcer Index 2.529
    WL Error Term 4.858
    WL Reward Ratio 160.8406
    Luck Coefficient 4.063
    Pessimistic Rate of Return 5.3141
    Equity Drop Ratio 0.0035

    You'll have to excuse me for not posting the program. This is usually the last step I take before watching it for awhile. I'll watch it till it builds for the next 10 trades. If it wins greater than 80-90% of the time, I'd say it works.
     
    #256     Dec 17, 2008
  7. <b>Breakthrough Thread of the Year</b>
     
    #257     Dec 17, 2008
  8. BW, are these some of the trades you are getting. Something doesn't look right. thnx


    Code:
    Short	SPX15	160	12/8/2008 10:15:00 AM	901.69	12/8/2008 12:45:00 PM	907.91	-0.69	-1,001.20	10	-100.12	Jacks friend
    Long	SPX15	158	12/9/2008 7:15:00 AM	907.59	12/9/2008 12:45:00 PM	889.16	-2.03	-2,917.95	22	-132.63	Jacks friend 
    Long	SPX15	156	12/10/2008 7:15:00 AM	900.83	12/10/2008 7:45:00 AM	897.19	-0.41	-573.84	2	-286.92	Jacks friend 
    Short	SPX15	156	12/10/2008 10:00:00 AM	896.24	12/10/2008 11:15:00 AM	891.20	0.56	780.24	5	156.05	Jacks friend 
    Long	SPX15	157	12/10/2008 12:30:00 PM	898.68	12/10/2008 12:45:00 PM	898.97	0.03	39.53	1	39.53	Jacks friend
    Short	SPX15	157	12/11/2008 10:30:00 AM	896.18	12/11/2008 12:45:00 PM	874.08	2.46	3,463.70	9	384.86	Jacks friend 
    Long	SPX15	167	12/12/2008 9:15:00 AM	865.94	12/12/2008 10:15:00 AM	873.17	0.83	1,201.41	4	300.35	Jacks friend 
    Short	SPX15	168	12/12/2008 10:45:00 AM	865.43	12/12/2008 12:45:00 PM	880.04	-1.69	-2,460.48	8	-307.56	Jacks friend s
    Short	SPX15	164	12/15/2008 7:15:00 AM	871.20	12/15/2008 9:00:00 AM	870.28	0.10	144.88	7	20.70	Jacks friend 
    Long	SPX15	165	12/15/2008 10:45:00 AM	868.65	12/15/2008 12:45:00 PM	869.40	0.08	117.75	8	14.72	Jacks friend 
    Short	SPX15	160	12/17/2008 7:15:00 AM	896.37	12/17/2008 12:45:00 PM	903.92	-0.85	-1,214.00	22	-55.18	Jacks 	0.00
     
    #258     Dec 17, 2008
  9. From the stats it looks like the code is "peeking" at future bars. You have 10 pages of code... how do you know this isn't the problem?
     
    #259     Dec 17, 2008
  10. Sure looks like that to me too.

    I'm running the code on esig $SPX 15 minute bars for the last 120 days.

    Net profit is -$4360. I "trade" all I can starting with $147,000.

    Something is not right.
     
    #260     Dec 17, 2008
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