It's starting to unwind!!!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by AutoMate, Sep 21, 2008.




  1. and what orifice did you pull your speculative nonesense form?

    What makes you so sure the tax payer "will be paid back"?

    paid back in ever useless dollars is more like it. The dollar joe from main street is giving to wall street will be paid back at .50

    do you actually think for a minute that Obama will be worse than the current neo-con cancerous disease that has infected washington?

    Do you actually believe any liberal/democratic govt. can do more harm than bush and the neo-cons have done?

    yet another clueless ideological imbecile. Stop watching faux tv. You might get a clue.
     
    #21     Sep 21, 2008
  2. And do you really think Bush is a conservative?

    He is a republican, there is a difference. Too many times, people use the words 'republican,' and 'conservative,' interchangeably.

    They are not the same thing.
     
    #22     Sep 21, 2008
  3. Republic - a country ruled by the people or SOME PEOPLE
    Monarchy - a country ruled by a king (in modern time, mostly for symbolic use)


    Financial systems - the flow of economic resources
    World system - the flow of resources in the world; human, systemic, natural resources, geo conflict
    Cultural system - everything is an equity; celebrity, social, marketing, idolization, paparazzi, arts, fashion
    Career system - grants, projects, research, theories, indoctrination, reputation, recognition, promotion
    Media system - coverage, projects, investigations, publishing, newsworthiness, connotations
    Intellect system - intellectual property rights, DMCA, idea control, creation control, patenting

    Conservative - keep the system alive, we like it like it is, "old money", "old boys club", be quiet about it
    Neoconservative - have right to disrupt - "liberate", reshape systems, claim their rights, unilateral, non-consential, Shock&Awe
    Liberal - consensus changes, social justice, welfare, share the burden, egalitarianism, ethics
    Libertarian - let the systems control themselves, agnostic, detachment, isolation
    Socialist - extreme nullification of equity, total equality, strict system control, authoritarian

    System creation - commoditize anything, equity entities, create industry, privatize
    System control - support, charity, lobby, politics, slander, scandal, public image, INTERVENTIONS, REGULATIONS
    System bias - greed, parasites, fraud, corruption, fear-uncertainty-doubt
    System interest - persons, families, organizations, networks
    System encumbering - obfuscating, tap into more aspects, hamper efficiency, stop transparency, more laws, more work
    System profiling - identification of everything, accumulate, extrapolation, prediction modelling, learning

    System trust - absent, none, sans integrity, social control, chaos theory, elite theory, decision theory, corporatism
    Democracy - obfuscated - encumbered - structured flow routes - influences - interests - rule of flow control - another brick in the wall

    Influentials: power projection - interests - investments - protection - defense - indoctrination - political capital - ideas - beliefs

    Anglosphere , Heartland , Halford Mackinder , James Burnham , Cecil Rhodes , Charles Murray - The Bell Curve and welfare , Neocons

    World resources control - system flow - reshape systems through upheaval - interests of influence - profits - poverty - polarize
    The Marshal plan ... etc.

    If you are religious - please read father Gary Dorrien's articles on ethics and neoconservatism.
    He is the authority in the world on the subject.


    www.anglospherechallenge.com
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state (neocon AND paleocon concept)


    From a systems philosophy perspective: (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_philosophy)

    Libertarians - The Non-aggression principle - Laissez-faire
    Liberals - Lets just get along, can't we...
    Conservatives - Morality - Just War - Containment
    Neoconservatives - Aggression - Logic - Upheaval - Reshaping - "Liberation"

    Religion - Reinhold Niebuhr (the leading expert in the world is father Dr. Gary Dorrien, Columbia University).


    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_in_international_relations
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_radicalism

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Niebuhr


    I live in Brazil - the country with the largest number of bulletproof cars in the world.
    Corruption here is rampant and has saturated society, and education is next to worthless in Brazil.
    TV here is worthless crap, mindless numbing zombie-drool - it gives you an brain-ache (ice-ache).



    Bzzzt...

    E-democracy - Transhumanism - Representative direct democracy - Red pill
    ... evolution , adaptation , progress , futurology , systems science


    If you don't understand the above - you will likely never amount to understand anything in life anyway...
    Make sure your kids get a proper education, at least...



    What has happened is the following: the rest of the world have EVOLVED their societies - while the United States have BOGGED down theirs, and their political system with an explosion of complexing society with patches, quick-fixes and systemic bias to "create something out of nothing" - like celebrities, reality-TV, worthless newsworthiness... It has happened elsewhere as well - all feeding into the flow of the world economy.

    With the advent of Internet and technology being advanced tools for other parts of the world - the "old money" got worried - and let the NEOCONS come to power - giving them the reigns to do some "upheaval" and "liberation" to realign the flow of resources and economy in the world.


    It all backfired badly.


    Who do the terrorists hate?
    - the American people?
    or
    - the American elite (among other elites)?

    What are they attacking?
    Are they trying to break the flow of resources, the bias in the system?
    What is the US military doing? Protecting American elites' interests?


    "When it rains on the priest, it drips on the decan."
    You guys are all aligned in this system of the elites - funneling and feeding it - getting a small part, your cut. But you need to understand what a sustainable system is - and what is system bias and system corruption. You need to understand sustainable development.

    You might think that you are "powerless", and that you are aligned straight in this system - kept in a straight-jacket, your hands tied ... so you won't even lift a finger. Well, newsflash - you CAN actually change a system - even the two-party system of US politics. But you got to get off your fat ass to do it.

    The fundamental principle for continued growth is:
    like in all business and personal interaction - integrity and trust.
     
    #23     Sep 21, 2008
  4. I really resent everybodies negative shit pushing my negative shit off the pages.

    I was negative first, and most, and I demand my negative shit get the negative attention it deserves.

    Besides that, your negative shit is much more negative than my negative shit. That just ain't right.

    Now let's get our priorities straight. I will post something negative, and get beaten up for two days.

    Thank you.
     
    #24     Sep 21, 2008
  5. ROFLMAO

    (after reading this thread I think I need a play to go long tin foil)
     
    #25     Sep 21, 2008
  6. Jorge Bush and Teddy Kennedy ARE the same immature boy.

    Both boys misspent their youth in a drunken stupor.

    Both boys because of a wealthy and connected family were able to advance despite their shortcomings which would have doomed an average Joe like me and most on this forum because of their family name.

    Teddy was little more sexy and cooler than Jorge and as a Kennedy he had GROUPIES. He took one of his groupies swimming in an Oldsmobile, but because the Kennedys have charisma and a public relations staff, the boy skated.

    Poor pathetic Jorge had no groupies and when he got a load on, was doomed to driving his SISTER around Maine, he got his DUI which was covered up, until the last week of the 2000 election when that windsurfing guy married to the Pickle Princess played the Jorge's DUI arrest as trump card, Bush just like Errol was in like Flynn.

    Teddy and Jorge slept together on No Child Left Behind, just further proof that bi-partisan means a royal screwing to the American people.

    Jorge's and his new best buddy Teddy got together on prescription drugs another BIG BUCKS mistake.

    And of course, Jorge and Teddy got together on comprehensive ILLEGAL immigration reform because Jorge got more love in his youth from his Spainish speaking nanny/housekeeper than the only Bush male in the family, his mother Barbara Bush.

    These two parties, what's the difference? My taste buds can only taste cola, and cannot tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi. The same goes for political party, you got have some sophisticated taste buds to tell the difference between a lying thieving treacherous Republican and lying thieving treacherous Democrat.
     
    #26     Sep 21, 2008
  7. doli

    doli

    Paulson's batting .000 so far. If not, then why this latest "rescue."

    What everyone needs, minimally, is an interest rate hedge. Short treasuries after the FED's first rate increase (it will happen, eventually, Iraq war debt -- let alone this latest scheme -- guarantees it). Cover when they start moving the rate down (it will happen, eventually). Also, when they start moving the rate down, go long treasuries.
     
    #27     Sep 21, 2008
  8. monti1a

    monti1a

    It seems like the only commies are your boys Paulson, Bush, and McCain....the three Stooges...that have turned this country into a Socialist state off the backs of the American taxpayers.
     
    #28     Sep 21, 2008
  9. Thanks dude. Appreciate the help instead of the typical ET flaming.
     
    #29     Sep 21, 2008