Great argument- lets exclude science from the debate. Or maybe just exclude science from the historical data so a political solution can be implemented ASAP.
Actually, I'm not. I have reason to believe it's different today, but I am willing to discuss what's causing the warming. As I said, prudence is in order. But I'm not willing to discuss if there is warming or not. Thank you for accepting my admission that my info was wrong in vastly under-reporting the number of records that have fallen. ; )
(Gasping)...Ya think?!?:eek: And, is it within the realm of possibility that the science available today could be able to pinpoint some reasons for this current global warming? [Hint: Cars...(not the rock group.)]
Well, a big factor here is that US and European scientists sympathetic to the human causal perspective like to filter their data with a bit of 'curve fitting' and a good dose of 'error correction factors'. And those artificial allowances just about account for the causal deviations they cite in the data. The fact of the matter is that the empirical data does not support implications for a human causal connection. Is there global warming ? Of course, no one would logically deny that - it's a natural phenomenom. Is global warming caused by man's industrial or lifestyle activities ? No data to support that conclusion.
"science" can be scientific or it can be ginned up bullshit... I've found that showing somebody how their version of "science" is ginned up bullshit won't change their opinion... it will drive them into debating in a more political fashion, they will reframe the argument like a pollster frames questions to get the desired response, they will do the name calling thingy.. This Al Gore version of "wake up and pee the world is on fire!" is ginned up bullshit complete with a money payoff for Mr. Gore and increased political clout for the people that ride the environmental issues, that would be the Vatican, the Western Left, etc...
And the denial is money payoff to the current recipients of profit. We have (a sketch) two groups, one without money and power, but who want those, and the other group who has the money and power the first group wants. Now, who's going to present the wider, louder (read plausible) argument?
The problem, as admitted by you, is that your only interest in analyzing data is to analyze current weather patterns that support the claim where you can include cars (not the rock group). And when pressed to factor historical data you claim science is not capable so we must exclude it. Perhaps you should check with The Weather Girls? (Hint: the music group). I hear it's raining men.