It’s hard to understate how poor Trump’s Iran policy is going

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    For the record:

    https://apnews.com/article/iran-nor...p-fact-check-727282bdead6489a8521059936375210

    The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured.

    That left people, businesses and governments in each country indebted to partners in the other, and these complex claims took decades to sort out in tribunals and arbitration. For its part, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

    The day after the nuclear deal was implemented, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the claim over the 1970s military equipment order, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.
     
    #241     Jul 14, 2021
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/index.html

    Kerry: Some Iran sanctions relief likely to go to terrorists
    https://apnews.com/article/9ab669cada3b47cfaa3e6793a3ca6faa


    $1.7-billion payment to Iran was all in cash due to effectiveness of sanctions, White House says

    https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-iran-payment-cash-20160907-snap-story.html

    Obama should apologize for shameful cash payment to Iran
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...d-apologize-for-shameful-cash-payment-to-iran

    Obama’s hidden Iran deal giveaway
    By dropping charges against major arms targets, the administration infuriated Justice Department officials — and undermined its own counterproliferation task forces.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966

    Major beneficiaries of the Iran deal: The IRGC and Hezbollah
    https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/major-beneficiaries-of-the-iran-deal-the-irgc-and-hezbollah/

    The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook
    https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

    Report: Obama Admin Provided Iranian Terror Orgs With $37.4 Million in Cash
    Cash payment by U.S. goes to Iran’s military budget, report finds
    https://freebeacon.com/national-sec...ovided-iranian-terror-orgs-37-4-million-cash/

    Iran is estimated to have spent at least $37.4 million in recent U.S. cash payments to fund its global terrorism operation, including organizations responsible for the murder of U.S. citizens, according to new research provided to the Washington Free Beacon by analysts.

    The recent $1.7 billion cash payment to Iran—which is being described by many in Congress as a ransom payment to the Islamic Republic—will be used in part to fund Iran’s leading military organization, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which is responsible for orchestrating terror attacks that have killed Americans.

    (More at above url)
     
    #242     Jul 14, 2021
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    pfft, by that logic, the US is one of the biggest funders of proxy terrorism.
     
    #243     Jul 14, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Actually the Obama administration was one of the biggest funders of proxy terrorism. Let's place the blame directly where it belongs.
     
    #244     Jul 14, 2021
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  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    can't assign blame w/o proof. Sorry, we're not in Trump's authoritarian wet dream anymore.
     
    #245     Jul 14, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Well then take the words of John Kerry himself... the cash being given to Iran is being used to fund terrorism. Straight from the horses mouth.
     
    #246     Jul 14, 2021
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Starving Yemeni children tell Trump "hi"
     
    #247     Jul 14, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    They should tell Iran and Saudi Arabia "hi". In reality it is Iran who has been waging the proxy war in Yemen and even launching attacks against Saudi Arabia via Yemen.
     
    #248     Jul 14, 2021
  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    Again, it was their money. We were going to have to release it anyway you look at it, and pay even more interest. You’re buying into a know-nothing narrative. You’re also failing to report Bush senior released $200 million to Iran of the same exact money.

    Is Iran going to spend some of their money on terrorism, yes. No shit, it’s their money that’s what they do.
     
    #249     Jul 14, 2021
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Finally something that is accurate from you on this. Still not American national security though.
     
    #250     Jul 14, 2021