Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Thank you for your help.
     
    #8961     Nov 6, 2008
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    #8962     Nov 6, 2008
  3. ehorn

    ehorn

    Thanks very much spyder. My "government level" quality is keeping me in the park but I keep missing some key pitches :)

    More drills...

    Thanks for your direction.

    EDIT: I will tape this one to my toilet lid (3 cases, 3 cases, 3 cases) :D
     
    #8963     Nov 6, 2008
  4. Atari

    Atari

    Hey Spyder,

    I had a question about the up traverse we had at the end of the day. I did not see the return to dominance to complete the sequence during the day. Upon debrief, I'm assuming 14:40 provided the needed dominance to complete the sequence and 14:45 provided jokari window change. Is this correct?

    If so, how do we establish 14:40 as a dominant bar, since it was both a BO from a sym pennant and the first bar out of the 14:10 lateral? I was assuming we needed another increasing black volume bar to confirm that bar as dominant. I was thinking maybe the fact that the 14:40 bar went through both boundaries of the 14:10 lateral and closed outside the top boundary might have established dominance on that bar (w/o the need to confirm it's dominance w/ a second inc bar). Is that correct?

    Any guidance is much appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Atari

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    #8964     Nov 6, 2008

  5. ....:)
     
    #8965     Nov 6, 2008
  6. I screwed something up since 13:20 was a Pt2.
     
    #8966     Nov 6, 2008
  7. 1. No Lateral exists here - even though it appears as if one could annotate a Lateral. Simply because something looks like a Lateral, does not make it so.

    2. We assume non-dominance, until the market proves otherwise. When Price breaks out of a Pennant Formation, a trader says to themselves, "The first Bar is 'unknown' with respect to dominance, but the second bar will let me know." However, this is not always the case. Sometimes, due to the specific example involved, the trader does know, and has certainty, on that first bar (we had one such example a few weeks ago if memory serves). We have another example here.

    3. Annotate the tapes in this area, and they should tell you why we know the Bar in question must be dominant. pay attention to the Gaussian Changes as well.

    HTH.

    - Spydertrader

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    #8967     Nov 7, 2008
  8. You have annotated a Point One (green inside the brown traverse) in the middle of a Tape. Don't think I have ever seen such a thing before. :)

    - Spydertrader
     
    #8968     Nov 7, 2008
  9. Are you referring to the 13:30 bar? If so I gave more weight to this bar being an OB than a Spike bar aspect of it. Since it was a OB the sequence needed to complete itself.
     
    #8969     Nov 7, 2008
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    #8970     Nov 7, 2008