Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. I agree with you Romanus: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113310&perpage=6&pagenumber=1342

    lj
     
    #8061     Sep 30, 2008
  2. This is very nice stuff Romanus and at first reading appears to be on the money. With respect to the red volume textual annotations, I would change 'increased' to 'increasing'.

    I agree with you (and I see also guavaman says the same thing) that there was no TRAVERSE level signal for change today. So still black dominant and long.

    lj
     
    #8062     Sep 30, 2008
  3. I think that as you say there are lots of signals for change but not on the TRAVERSE level, i.e., the change signals are for INTRAFRACTAL and TAPE movements.

    While it has been a bit of a grinder (speaking just for myself) to stay on the 5 min ES as a TRAVERSE trader, all the time, the gain vastly outweighs the pain. The reason being that if things screw up, you can always get on the right side of the "TRAVERSE market", if you will. So for today, if a short 'flubbed', then one reverses and holds as opposed to exiting and taking a loss.

    Cajones d'acero award for doing a real-time debrief on a real trade.

    lj
     
    #8063     Sep 30, 2008
  4. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    guava had it called, 1335 - 1425 is a lateral traverse.

    WMCN? What led up to this lateral traverse? An up traverse?

    So we need what? Another up traverse.

    Where is the pt3 up? 1525.

    What happens then? More lateral movement, and contrary to what some have posted, it is not a pt 2 to pt3 move as there was no signal for change.

    So WMCN? Again what is 1525 to EOD? A lateral TRAVERSE.

    So if today were continuing, we expect what? Another UP traverse.
     
    #8064     Sep 30, 2008
  5. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    Nope
     
    #8065     Sep 30, 2008
  6. Close, as in, what we (Romanus and I) have said is part of the difference?

    lj

    I know what he's going to say but I'll ask anyway.
     
    #8066     Sep 30, 2008

  7. Thanks guava and avi
    Sometimes I get caught up in the sequences and trying to spot signs of change after sequence completes and miss those wmcn traverse situations. Havent had too much trouble lately. Hopefully I'll be able to remember this one. There was enough information to get back on the right side. Just a momentary lapse of reason.
     
    #8067     Oct 1, 2008
  8. Very well done! That certainly supports why my :D "black'n'red" count indicated no permission to seek change until 14:30. Gonna test my theory on some charts to see if I was actually correct or it was a lucky coincidence.

    A very big personal thank you, guavaman!
     
    #8068     Oct 1, 2008
  9. The other difference which I noticed is that Peak Volume has all of it's bars (components) belonging to dominant component - not a single bar of the three belongs to non-dominant component of traverse.

    Is that it?
     
    #8069     Oct 1, 2008
  10. I made some comments in your chart Romanus. In addition I believe that the 15:10 bar (not shown) is likewise a spike bar and although not an IBGS bar it does have a JW change signal, again NOT for the traverse trader.

    I also will be doing some looking at previous charts to see if your red/black thingy holds up. Certainly from today it looks promising.
    Congratulations (so far).

    lj
     
    #8070     Oct 1, 2008