Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. My incorrect analysis and annotations of today :p .

    Incorrect Analysis #1:Thought we had a Pt3 traverse down w/out a signal of change.

    Incorrect Analysis# 2: OB @ 11:30 which closed inside range of previous bar was not signal of change.

    Incorrect Analysis# 3: 11:50 bar as Pace Acceleration which meant continuation up after a retrace of some sort.

    Incorrect Analysis# 4: Thought 12:25 was Peak Volume, but subsequent bars had lower low so I changed my view.
     
    #8041     Sep 30, 2008
  2. charts

    charts

    The carry-over indicated that we'll be looking to finish the down move firstly (the gap may have misled you). Contrary to Avi 8's 1220 assertion, I see the first up-move starting at 1000.
     
    #8042     Sep 30, 2008
  3. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    Down move finished yesterday and signaled long.

    I made no assertion of 1220. Please reread the post.
     
    #8043     Sep 30, 2008
  4. 1. 1220 eob - formation BO on increased volume and RTL break on increased volume

    2. 1225 eob - more increased volume

    3. the trend has changed

    4. expecting pt3 down when increased red volume shows up 1305 eob

    Still don't understand what happened! That was supposed to be a textbook pt3 down!

    I am really curious to hear from those who were on the right side their thought process.
     
    #8044     Sep 30, 2008
  5. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    Sounds like a pt3 down to me.
     
    #8045     Sep 30, 2008
  6. Looks like R\/R to me.
     
    #8046     Sep 30, 2008
  7. Neoxx

    Neoxx

    Today's attempt so far...
     
    #8047     Sep 30, 2008
  8. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    And what did the market say?
     
    #8048     Sep 30, 2008
  9. You decided 11:50 represented Peak Volume. It didn't. Then, you decided all these increasing Volume red bars (12:00, 12:05, 12:20, 12:25) represented dominant movement. They don't. You decided that the market, at some point today, had given permission to seek a signal for change. It hadn't.

    10:50 isn't Change (Price closes in a Lateral)
    11:50 isn't Change (Pace Acceleration)
    13:05 isn't change (Sequences not complete)

    - Spydertrader
     
    #8049     Sep 30, 2008
  10. Spyder,

    Just peeping in with a quick multi-part question.

    Would it be correct that the LM which began after the LM of 10:45-10:55 (TN time=EOB) did so at 11:00?

    It then continued till it was killed with the second bar of the symP at 11:55. Thus the 11:50 bar cannot be PkV but rather is a PA bar. Correct?

    The reason that the 11:00 bar was picked as a starting point for the lateral had to do with the fact that it showed a pace change. Correct?

    I had originally picked the 11:10 OB as the lateral's starting point but aside from the fact that its pace was falling off, its H/L did not engulf the 11:00 bar and thus wouldn't have killed it anyway. Correct?

    Finally, is the 'essential' difference between PkV and PA determined by whether or not a TRAVERSE change signal is APPROPRIATELY triggered?

    TIA

    lj
     
    #8050     Sep 30, 2008