Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. dkm

    dkm

    Mike,
    I really appreciate you trying to point me in the right direction. I seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the jokari window is meant to be interpreted when it comes to intrabar gaussian shifts, different fractals and whether or not it helps in the case of lateral price movement. The principle behind the jokari window is simple enough to understand but I am getting increasingly confused about how and when to apply it.
     
    #5751     Jul 28, 2008
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    #5752     Jul 28, 2008
  3. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    No problem, try applying it only at the close of bar.
     
    #5753     Jul 28, 2008
  4. dkm

    dkm

    That's what I'm trying to do but when an intrabar shift occurs during the current bar the anticipated outcome changes from what I thought would happen when I applied p & v from the previous bar. Perhaps I should not be surprised by that, since an intrabar shift is going to change what the previous bar suggested. So, if I see an intrabar shift, should I ignore the pv from the previous bar?
     
    #5754     Jul 28, 2008
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    #5755     Jul 28, 2008
  6. You already completed the M-A-D-A Loop on the previous bar in an effort to determine whether or not the market provided a signal for change. The market did not. As such, the information obtained from the M-A-D-A Loop, sits in the past. We concern ourselves with the not-too-distant future, and we monitor as the future moves into the present. Once again, in the now this time, Bar six either does or does not provide a signal for change. You have focused on whether or not the signal from Bar Five accurately portrayed what occurred on Bar Six. This isn't the correct focus.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #5756     Jul 28, 2008
  7. dkm

    dkm

    09:45 P up, V down, expect P down on 09:50 bar
    09:50 P down as expected.

    10:00 P up, V up, expect P up on 10:05 bar
    10:05 P up as expected

    10:20 P goes down but closes up, V up, expect P up on 10:25 bar
    10:25 goes down.....

    10:25 P down, V up, expect P down on 10:30 bar
    10:30 P up as expected

    10:30 P up, V up, expect P up on 10:35 bar
    10:35 P goes down....

    Am I interpreting jokari too literally?
     
    #5757     Jul 28, 2008
  8. dkm

    dkm

    I think this is an "aha"..........
     
    #5758     Jul 28, 2008
  9. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    if you have to 'think' then it's a maybe. :D
     
    #5759     Jul 28, 2008
  10. dkm

    dkm

    hmmm..... perhaps not
     
    #5760     Jul 28, 2008