Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. R/R

    R/R

    Spyder: I recently reviewed your post "Additional Signals for Change" from 10/1/07 where you described the LTL Bounce.

    Did you intend to exclude these events as a possibility for a point one as a literal read of the above might imply?

    TIA
     
    #5641     Jul 26, 2008
  2. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    Look at the chart snippet you posted.

    What specifically makes that a traverse level change?

    Hint: Mentally change the bar to the correct color
     
    #5642     Jul 26, 2008
  3. R/R

    R/R

    It is at least an IF1, but likely an IBGS. I can't tell which without the scale. Could also be peak volume but I'm unclear on these since I haven't seen a clear definition.

    But regardless, change or not was not the question.

    edit: perhaps my question was unclear. The statement "Without an FTT, one cannot have a Point One" excludes the possibility of a LTL bounce as a Point One as I interpret the statement because the two are different by definition.

    However, LTL Bounces have been formally presented in the past as an alternative to an FTT that can create a Point One. I'm trying to clarify this conflict.
     
    #5643     Jul 26, 2008
  4. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    Really?

    Sure you can, all the info is on your snippet.

    Compare and contrast. Differentiation and using logic in a binary system. This is exactly what is being hammered on recently.
     
    #5644     Jul 26, 2008
  5. If you want to discuss vocabulary words as signals for change, then FTT = Left Trend Line Bounce. If you want to discuss actual signals for change, then the vocabulary words representing specific signals for change at specific points in time need not be used as an item for differentiation. In the example posted by PointOne he chose to use a different vocabulary word than you because of a different example than you.

    As I have said many times, it all boils down to continuation or change.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #5645     Jul 26, 2008
  6. Oh my apologies, was he criticizing himself in those "the teacher isn't doing his job" rants?
     
    #5646     Jul 26, 2008
  7. Jander

    Jander

    The situation is jokari window change, which is traverse level change. This also has nothing to do with the proposed question.

    This is a situation where clarification is needed (requested?) when Spyder presents a ruleset that appears to contradict what has been stated in the past (ie. on his own chart).

    There seems to be an ftt of the tape created over the previous couple of bars. Perhaps it was implied that there will always be an ftt on some resolution level at point 1. However, this is just my guess at an interpretation and I will await Spyder's response to know for sure.

    EDIT: missed the post, disregard
     
    #5647     Jul 26, 2008
  8. Then while you are seeking keep your beliefs of "the teacher's" shortcomings to yourself.
     
    #5648     Jul 26, 2008
  9. Avi 8

    Avi 8

    Regardless of the intended question, let's use this snippet for a little quiz:

    How many traverse level changes appear? Where are they? What are they? and Why?
     
    #5649     Jul 26, 2008
  10. dkm

    dkm

    Am I correct in thinking that we have a jokari window signal for change on bar 6? (lower low, decreasing volume after increasing volume on previous bar)?

    Thanks
     
    #5650     Jul 26, 2008