Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Jander

    Jander

    well I sure as hell see it now :D
     
    #5061     Jul 15, 2008
  2. The market provided crystal clear signals this morning. For those trading on the 'Tree' Resolution Level (Traverses), the market signaled change short at Bar 4, and it signaled Change Long at Bar 8.

    These are the only signals thus far (9:30 AM to 11:00 AM) for this specific trading fractal.

    For those trading at 'Tree Level' (once again, this means the 'traverses'), if your charts do not mirror the attached exactly, then you have missed a critical component. If you decide you 'see' things differently, then I recommend a review of your annotation technique. Guess what that means? (See Monitoring Section of M-A-D-A Process).

    Again, the attached chart does not represent my opinion or "the way I 'see' the market." The attached chart represents the viewpoint of the market.

    Lastly, at the point in time when I created this screen capture, the market signaled its intention to head in one direction only. In other words, "What Must come next?" had but one single answer, and the trader should have known it in advance.

    If you cannot conceive of a Universe, where the above statement exists, then you have missed a critical component of the Monitoring process. If you cannot 'see' how such a statement can be made, then you have missed a critical component of the Monitoring process. If you did not know the direction of the market in advance, in this specific example, then you have missed a critical component of the Monitoring process.

    I trust everyone can evaluate where they need to apply focus after reading my words and viewing the attached chart. Should anyone require additional clarity on the subject, feel free to let me know.

    HTH.

    - Spydertrader

    Edit: All times Eastern and [close of] Bar

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1995057>
     
    #5062     Jul 15, 2008
  3. Jander

    Jander

    Spyder..

    After market could you (or anyone) explain the long on bar 8.
     
    #5063     Jul 15, 2008
  4. Pull up a Copy of The Jokari Window, and you should 'see' the answer in the bottom right corner.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #5064     Jul 15, 2008
  5. Jander

    Jander

    This sequence appears to be a carbon copy of the 1:05 [closing time] bar on 7-7-08 where you suggested a hold was appropriate. I am looking for context differences but dont see any.

    Also, is this not lateral movement? All subsequent bars closing inside the 10:05 [closing time] bar?
     
    #5065     Jul 15, 2008
  6. If you pull up all lateral movements annotated by Spydertrader you will notice that all bars inside an annotated area have closes inside the boundaries of the previous bar. It is not the case with 1015, 1020 1025, 1035 etc., all eob.
     
    #5066     Jul 15, 2008
  7. Jander

    Jander

    EDIT .. I see what you are saying.. but, pt 3 had already been established for the down traverse


    Incorrect
     
    #5067     Jul 15, 2008
  8. Sorry, I was looking at the wrong bar. 1:05 [closing time] bar on 7-7-08 ends dominant traverse of the dominant traverse of the down channel. pt1 1215 eob, pt3 1255 eob is a traverse of the channel pt1 1135 eob, pt3 1210 eob. The pt1 1135 eob, pt3 1210 eob channel is a traverse of the pink (or fuchsia?) down channel with pt1 on 1005 eob and pt3 1045 eob. So, then 1:05 [closing time] bar on 7-7-08 ends dominant traverse, what must come next is a non-dom traverse to complete the pt1 1135 eob, pt3 1210 eob channel.
     
    #5068     Jul 15, 2008
  9. Jander

    Jander

    Thanks for taking the time. I am not quite seeing your point yet, I am going to try and wrap my head around it.

    Regarding the lateral discussion, perhaps I am using the wrong term. I am not 100% on the difference between lateral movement/formation, but I do know that one of them does not require the close to be within the previous bar's range, only the first bar's range
     
    #5070     Jul 15, 2008