Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. astral

    astral

    If anyone would feel to help, is this channel correct? according to the "rules" spyder points out: if a bar has a higher has it's considered black volume, so hence my question:)

    looking back at this, is this not a sym. pennant? this would be considered the subtlety?

    edit: to me the turquoise channel would be correct, but just to make sure..
     
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    #4081     May 26, 2008
  2. this is my YM chart for same period
     
    #4082     May 26, 2008
  3. FWIW :)
     
    #4083     May 26, 2008
  4. Padawan

    Padawan


    The specific anticipated outcome from a FTT is a channel BO and the formation of a traverse channel in the opposite direction. We did not have WMCN for that anticipated outcome. If we identified the 10:35 bar as change and reversed long, the 10:40 bar does not provide a signal to reverse short since it becomes our new potential FTT. The 10:45 bar, however, shows that we have not made the kind of retrace that one expects during the formation of an up traverse channel (trend change) and it is these traverse channels (generally 7-10 per day) that we attempt to catch. Additionally, we would at least like to see the bar make a higher high than the previous bar. Without a true retrace, we can anticipate that the point 3 down will be formed. By EOB 10:45, the market tells us that the lateral is in control and we get back short, anticipating that we are moving laterally from a point 2 to a point 3. We then hold until an overriding signal for change develops.

    Matching channel slopes and widths provide important clues as well. If the market comes out of one steep channel and into another with a comparable slope, then the trader may not anticipate a point 3 even without much of a retrace. And when there’s a BO of a larger opposing channel but the current channel does not widen to match the width of the previous channel, it can be a sign that the point 3 won’t materialize and we’ll get continuation of the overall trend.

    I am thankful for the PM’s that were sent regarding this exercise, and I have essentially rehashed what was shared with me. Doing so has provided additional clarity, and I hope it helps others as well. Please feel free to add or edit as you see fit. Thanks.
     
    #4084     May 27, 2008
  5. Ezzy

    Ezzy

    This is just a heads up. ET has deleted a bunch of older inactive threads. So if you have some that you bookmarked but not saved, might want to see if they're still there, and save ones you don't want to disappear. - EZ
     
    #4085     May 27, 2008
  6. ivob

    ivob

    chart for the morning.

    IMO we just had change.

    Ivo
     
    #4086     May 27, 2008
  7. point 3 Up
     
    #4087     May 27, 2008
  8. Point 3 down
     
    #4088     May 27, 2008
  9. ivob

    ivob

    Chart for today.

    Regards,
    Ivo
     
    #4089     May 27, 2008
  10. tobbe

    tobbe

    ES for today :) .

    Edit: Unbelievable... I was so focused on the trees that I missed the first forest down :p .
     
    #4090     May 27, 2008