Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Atari

    Atari

    Great, this is definitely one of the first things that must be considered with this bar. The ES shows us coming out of a retrace and heading back down on spike peak level volume, then closing well off its lows (in fact it closes back within the shadow of the 10:25 bar). If I'm only looking at the ES for my signals, this is a change signal that would be hard to ignore.

    The 10:32 YM bar makes the spike, peak level volume even more clear. As an aside, note that this bar is also a BO of a Lateral Formation. What is different about the context here that makes needing to see more increasing volume following a Lateral BO not really relevant to our decision process?

    In addition to looking for signs of change, we need to consider reasons to hold. Bi9foot pointed out that we had not had a flaw or VE something we want to keep in mind. Also, the 10:34 YM bar, which provides a signal for change by not continuing down on increasing volume, also has flaw like volume levels letting us know that this change might be short lived and better to hold through. However, there is an additional context provided by the YM that gives even a stronger reason to hold. What about how we entered into the 10:32 YM bar would change how we view price movement in this bar (thereby changing our expectations)?

    -A
     
    #3961     May 22, 2008
  2. AllenW

    AllenW

    Thanks David,

    Your viewpoint and efforts are a great help to me. And I would say that you are seeing far more than you give yourself credit for.
     
    #3962     May 22, 2008
  3. AllenW

    AllenW

    Many thanks as well---these types of posts have helped me to begin to grasp the flow of the market and its signals. As to the "incorrect" part---if we had it down to perfection we would be bored out of our minds and then miss the signals anyway.:D
    Thanks
     
    #3963     May 22, 2008
  4. PT3 UP
     
    #3964     May 22, 2008
  5. 102238
    YM formation BO on IRV, WMCN didn't - change + SYM FBO on ES =>end of non dominant traverse on ES
     
    #3965     May 22, 2008
  6. 110226
    is YM looking to make pt3 down? All that decreasing black with price going up?
     
    #3966     May 22, 2008
  7. 110615
    YM SYM FBO on IBV without more IBV => change
     
    #3967     May 22, 2008
  8. 111531
    FTT on YM, it is pt3 down on ES after all.
     
    #3968     May 22, 2008
  9. 1050 [close of] on ES was dominant red after all
     
    #3969     May 22, 2008
  10. 113325
    finally, I've been waiting for this IR for the last 30 min:D
     
    #3970     May 22, 2008