Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. cnms2

    cnms2

    It looks like a reversal point ... increasing red volume after VE. Now we start looking for the next changing point.
     
    #3861     May 20, 2008
  2. Yes, I actually forgot to label yesterday as an FTT as of the close of today. I will add the FTT and keep it there, unless it gets taken out by increasing price
     
    #3862     May 20, 2008
  3. chuy

    chuy

    Attached is my version of PWRD. I have a question on sym pennants which you annotated. Somewhere I picked up the idea that the left bar in the pennant had to have greater volume than the bar to its right. Am I mistaken or does it not make a difference.?

    Thanks and appreciate any guidance.
     
    #3863     May 20, 2008
  4. chuy

    chuy

    Busy day on market, but mostly down. As a result, only 2 Bruno picks for Wednesday - - CRY and STV. Stocks in Dry Up are CALM
    CHDX CZZ DLB LXU MALL OME RICK UDRL VDSI ZUMZ.

    There was a crazy or two among the tenured stocks today and especially OMNI which I have attached. With a volume blip like this, WMCN has me puzzled. The extent of volume signifies change but these are not normal times in the oil field.

    Also, FTK and TRGL have interesting charts after today and might be at a decision point.

    Thanks in advance for any comments.
     
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    #3864     May 20, 2008
  5. I'm late to the discussion again, but I have a different question about this sequence:

    I saw change to Long confirmed with that incr B bar, but then the next bar's much decr B volume suggested change back to Short.

    Doesn't that bar indicate a nondominant traverse, looking for a retrace to fanned pt3? (And we do BO the down channel you've drawn on decreasing volume.)
     
    #3865     May 21, 2008
  6. gucci

    gucci

    Hallo! I've been a lurker for a while now and first of all want to thank Spydertrader for his indefatigable effort. Your support is much appreciated. Also a huge thank you to all constructive contributors to this very informative thread. I'd like to ask a question. I must be missing something, but I have a difficult time to reconcile the following two statements from: Spydertrader:

    1)Three ways exist for Price to move from Point Two to Point Three.

    2)OK, so right here you either override the market signal and hold from Point Two to Point Three, or the trader reverses.

    One bar later on the ES, we see increasing black. Anybody holding short through increasing black isn't thinking clearly.

    Sorry if it's been already discussed before. TIA
     
    #3866     May 21, 2008
  7. ivob

    ivob

    Sure, but change doesn't have to be change for me if I decide to hold for point 3 if I expect one. The discussion was not if we had change or not. The question was if a point 3 down still could be expected.

    Ivo


     
    #3867     May 21, 2008
  8. ivob

    ivob

    Sure but we trade the 5 minute fractal.

    While expecting a point 3 down it is completely acceptable for the chubby tape to be broken right before the point 3 is formed. Can you imagine if I would try to trade every chubby tape break...

    However, increasing black is not acceptable of course.

    regards,
    Ivo




     
    #3868     May 21, 2008
  9. "Three ways exist for Price to move from Point Two to Point Three" - was not, I think. It was given as a quiz however.
     
    #3869     May 21, 2008
  10. gucci

    gucci

     
    #3870     May 21, 2008