Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Really?

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    #3821     May 20, 2008
  2. If price is moving from pt2 to pt3 we expect anything but the increased black

    Edit: I posted before I saw Spydertrader's answer to dkm:)
     
    #3822     May 20, 2008
  3. ivob

    ivob

    15:45? I see decreasing black like you would expect after BO and before a point 3 down.

    Sure, I see change but as I hold point 1->2 and wait for point 3 there was no reason to exit....

    YM showed decreasing volume all the time while going up since the IBGS. When the ES 15:45 was taken out on increasing black that was the moment when (for me) a point 3 down was out of the picture.

    So you were not waiting for a point 3 down at all? Never?

    Exactly at what moment should it be clear that we are not waiting for a point 3 down anymore? Or why were we not waiting for a point 3 down at all? The action after a BO is hold or not? The sequence is 1-2-3 and then we start looking for an FTT...

    regards,
    Ivo
     
    #3823     May 20, 2008
  4. You do?

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    #3824     May 20, 2008
  5. No later than the [close of] 15:46 YM bar.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3825     May 20, 2008
  6. ivob

    ivob

    I admit: I missed this.... Incredible. The only time increasing black is not trend change are the three situations discussed and this is not one of them. Thank you.

    Okay, so had it been 5000 contracts less then you would have expected the point 3 down?

    regards,
    Ivo


     
    #3826     May 20, 2008
  7. cnms2

    cnms2

    Increasing non-dom volume after VE: reverse!
     
    #3827     May 20, 2008
  8. Pennant BO, All good.
    Increasing Volume, All good.

    More increasing Volume, but decreased Volatility. Good, but also change.

    What does the YM say? Also says change.

    OK, so right here you either override the market signal and hold from Point Two to Point Three, or the trader reverses.

    One bar later on the ES, we see increasing black. Anybody holding short through increasing black isn't thinking clearly.

    15:46 [close of] bar on the YM goes increasing black as Price breaks an RTL.

    Any of this unclear?

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3828     May 20, 2008
  9. 5000 contracts less and the context changes.

    You tell me.

    What happens when context changes?

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3829     May 20, 2008
  10. ivob

    ivob

    It is clear.

    Sounds stupid but I simply missed the increasing black.
    It is stupid. I feel ashamed.

    regards,
    Ivo




     
    #3830     May 20, 2008