Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Padawan

    Padawan

    Must admit I'm still struggling with this comment, dkm. Would you mind saying a little more about lateral movement after the pt3 is formed?
     
    #3761     May 20, 2008
  2. My ym chart from 051908...:)
     
    #3762     May 20, 2008
  3. cnms2

    cnms2

    I believe that in light of your earlier comment about decreasing dominant volume after Pt3 being a signal of change, you're referring at the 14:05 bar (on my chart). Its volume being at flaw level is a good reason to hold through.
     
    #3763     May 20, 2008
  4. cnms2

    cnms2

    I have this channel on my chart too.
     
    #3764     May 20, 2008
  5. dkm

    dkm

    All I was trying to say was that if a pt3 has not yet formed one must be mindful of the possibility that price can move laterally to form the pt3. After pt3 appears, we anticipate that the trend will continue. If price enters a new lateral we should not necessarily expect price to exit the lateral and continue the previous trend. From this point of view, the lateral before the pt3 is "continuation" (of the trend) and a cause to hold whereas the beginning of the next lateral should be considered as "change". This is why context makes a difference to how one should view laterals. Of course, on a bar to bar basis, all bars within a lateral are "continuation" of the lateral, by definition. Apologies for the confusion :)
     
    #3765     May 20, 2008
  6. dkm,

    Thanks for posting that, I find these helpful.

    My analysis is virtually identical, but I have trouble with the confidence (and perhaps patience) required to wait for bar close. And my anticipation of where we'll be at bar close is not accurate enough.

    Yesterday I started to draw anticipatory channels, which seemed to help a lot - I didn't care nearly so much about price squiggles when I could see price moving through my channels as expected.
     
    #3766     May 20, 2008
  7. ivob

    ivob

    10 pip trade. Eurodollar futures.

    Price failed to continue on increasing red after breakout of the lateral.

    regards,
    Ivo
     
    #3767     May 20, 2008
  8. Padawan

    Padawan

    Thank you, dkm. :D thanks also for the perceived points of change.
     
    #3768     May 20, 2008
  9. R/R

    R/R

    What ever happened with the outcome of the "Holy Grail Drill" from 5/9/08 regarding bars 15:10-:15, 15:40-:45, and 15:50-:55?

    "All three signal change. However, all three signal change for a very specific reason. This they also have in common. Figure out the reason behind the signal, and you'll have the keys to success you need."

    I've been snookered by the last bar, re: it's commonality with the others.
    edit: date was 5/9/08 as corrected
     
    #3769     May 20, 2008
  10. I'm curious, what are those numbers above your volume bars?
     
    #3770     May 20, 2008