Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Partial quote from cnms2:
    except when you make mistakes, or when the market reacts extremely fast.

    These are exactly the conditions I am talking about cnms2. I am not talking about accepting losses but rather appreciating that they are going to happen, no matter how expert you are, and then basically forgetting about it. There is no better way to foster a mindset of continually worrying about losing than to be crippled by believing that you have to be right all the time.

    You do not have to convince me that the methodology espoused by Jack and Spyder is a superior one. It is hands down the closest thing to a "basic market science" that I have come across. I attempt to treat it as such in the way I think about it.

    One of the first books I read on investing was by, as poor Victor calls him, "The Great Soros". In it he said, "We make money because we know that we don't know". That held me in good stead for quite a while. Jack says, "We make money because we know how to anticipate." Jack's way is superior and that's why I'm here - to learn how to anticipate, from him or anybody else that I perceive knows what they are talking about.

    Best,

    lj
     
    #361     Jan 17, 2008
  2. Padawan

    Padawan

    Great post. You're on a roll today.
     
    #362     Jan 17, 2008
  3. dkm

    dkm

    Frequently I see increasing volume on the non dom traverse from pt2 to pt3 and then pt3 forms with decreasing volume in the dominant direction. This is not a rare occurence and it continues to confuse me.
     
    #363     Jan 17, 2008
  4. Tums

    Tums

    may I ask which tree limb you are referring to?
    Was it on a big tree or on a small tree?
     
    #364     Jan 17, 2008
  5. My trading results graphed would look like a non dominate tranverse of a Short channel. Plenty of small gains followed by rapid relatively big losses.

    When I analized my dominate tranverse losses I discovered that they all happened on strong trending days where I stubbornly focus on going against the trend on a perceived FTT.

    Another thing that I noticed is my INCORRECT usage of the YM. YM is good at confirming trend and at major changes in trend. Using the YM in an uptrend at the LTL, when the price just
    went lower than the low of the last bar is not a change or a FTT signal on the ES at the forrest level. At the forrest level a YM change signal would be a RTL BO on increasing RED PRV.

    Really bearing down on concentrating on my entries for this month ( my Exits are not optimal. I will concentrate on this next month ). So far so good in that all of entries this month are at "action" points on the es. EIther price takes off or a rapid reverse puts me on the right side of the market.

    WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS GOING TO DO. THAT'S THE MARKET'S JOB. DO NOT mentally get locked in to your analysis. The market can quickly change and your analysis must change.

    I will post my trading results at the end of the month.
     
    #365     Jan 17, 2008
  6. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    maybe you need to sweep to the left more often
     
    #366     Jan 17, 2008
  7. Three things create the scenario you describe.

    1. Formation Break Outs (as you have in your clip)

    2. 'Missed' (ommitted annotation) channels

    3. Intra-Bar Gaussian Shift (Price switches from Dominant to Non-Dominant Intra-Bar)

    If you have any (or a combination) of the three, anticipate seeing increasing Volume on the Non-Dominant Traverse.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #367     Jan 17, 2008
  8. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    I think this was what Jack had in mind when he said 'sweep':D
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    #368     Jan 17, 2008
  9. This is my results so far 2 weeks for forex using tapes and channels....:)
     
    #369     Jan 17, 2008
  10. Nice work !
     
    #370     Jan 17, 2008