Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Just a follow up to my last post, I exited from PSEM today because of it's five minute chart. Why?

    1. I was watching the stock closely because though it is going up a channel, and has had three black bars in a row, yesterdays volume showed a decrease. The stock has done this before and then increased and taken off, so I held the stock yesterday, but on a short leash.

    2. Stock has been in the negative all day. It has attempted to break through into positive twice, and failed.

    3. The volume is even further down than yesterday (if it continues at current pace)

    How is this different from CALM (which is up again today)?

    1. CALM had shown an increase in black volume from the day before. The daily chart had not signaled change, whereas PSEM's has signaled possible change.

    2. By midday yesterday , CALM had shown signs of recovery, and volume was better.
     
    #3551     May 14, 2008
  2. "Sigh" I get the feeling the "lesson" you are hoping I will learn is far simpler and more elegant than my overthinking is allowing me to see... :)

    JF
     
    #3552     May 14, 2008
  3. astral

    astral

    for what it's worth. interesting sequence at interesting moments.

    Which is, of course, cool. Look at the subtlety. I've also been monitoring the DOM and especially the T/S, and it makes perfect sense.

    Though I find it odd at turning points, it creates very clear signals. However, I'm still in the calibration process.

    It all fits perfect in the picture, especially the OTR chart. The sequences repeat themselves constantly. (especially pace sequences in combo with Tick formations) I find it very usefull at turning points, which is where we Bank, obviously:)
     
    #3553     May 14, 2008
  4. Just looking for some suggestions here....

    I have just had a very good day, but I am exiting most of my positions and feeling frustrated. I have about half the gains I could have had. Does it get easier, as one learns more, to detect when to get out and when to stay? I thought about getting out earlier, but decided to hold since volume was good, and everything, after a midday turn down, had started back up again. Then came the late afternoon selloff.

    I think the weakness in my monitoring is not being able to detect when peak volume has been reached and its implications.

    I guess I should not complain on an up day. Still, it IS incredibly frustrating.

    JF
     
    #3554     May 14, 2008
  5. ES

    That red/green paintbar line across the bottom of the price chart indicates when either Volume is low or price is moving slowly(more lateral than up or down) = red = hazard zone for beginners.

    Today was almost totally red! But that last run down moved well! :)
     
    #3555     May 14, 2008
  6. YM
     
    #3556     May 14, 2008
  7. tobbe

    tobbe

    Practice makes perfect. I need practice. Today was good practice :D .
     
    #3557     May 14, 2008
  8. The Flaw

    The Flaw

    The big picture channels for today.
     
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    #3558     May 14, 2008
  9. Here's a quick peek at the 15min ES for today. I keep a small window in the corner so that I do not lose sight of the bigger picture. The morning almost all lateral, yet slow steady up -- I believe that is what we call an iceberg for the truly patient folk!

    Then the cliff in the afternoon...

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1921109>
     
    #3559     May 14, 2008
  10. Stop focusing on your P & L immediately. Learn to trade, and the P & L takes care of itself. It won't need you to worry about it. :D

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3560     May 14, 2008